I have yet to read or hear an explanation that cotradicts that world picture
'A brief history of time' by Hawking contradicts your view of time and the universe. It is well worth reading.
Posts by Caedes
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by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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Caedes
Prologos,
Whilst I admire that you seem genuinely interested in science and that is obviously a good thing; it sometimes sounds like you have swallowed a book by Deepak Chopra (who is an awful charlatan and fraudster).
what is at the fringes of the natural universe gives us indications what is outside of it. The Background radiation, (really younger than the big bang), The movement, radiation that signals that all that matter has disappeared, out of the universe into a black hole, leaving only it's effects. time stands still in these conditions, and you can not be part of the universe if you do not paricipate in its movement through time. Remember that we live in a fabric of spacetime that is moving, expanding, and black hole matter has left us.
As I have said several times there is no outside our universe, our natural universe is everything there is. It includes billions of of black holes, the entire microwave background radiation and all of space-time. If you don't believe me feel free to research it, there are are dozens of books that explain this stuff. I and several others here would be happy to recommend some if you want to really have a scientific understanding of the universe. I don't say this merely to disagree with you but because you seem to have missed some fundamental aspects of the scientific understanding of the universe.
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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Caedes
Hooberus,
See my post 1968 where I answered your question. It's interesting that you suddenly want evidence when in all the previous threads on this site where you have posted you run a mile when asked for your evidence.
Apognophos,
I see you are still having difficulties with the definition of complexity. Have you tried reading the wikipedia entry that I linked to?
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Dungeons and Dragons, Magic: The Gathering and all the stuff you weren't allowed to play as a JW
by marmot inby nature i'm a total geek.
i read the lord of the rings for the first time in grade 3 and i would probably have had a 20-sided die hung around my neck if it weren't for the silly superstitious restrictions against playing rpgs among jws.
if anything they should encourage role playing games among the youth because it'll keep them virgins forever.
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Caedes
40K conquest is a good game, I've bought the base game and I'm looking forward to the expansions. I also play the android netrunner card game. If you aren't playing in tournaments then they are both cheap to get into.
I have also been into Warhammer 40K and have several armies but I would hesitate recommending it these days as it is very expensive for what it is, they seem to be catering mainly to the collector market these days.
There are a number of alternatives to 40K these days, Distopian wars/legions, Warmachine, Malifaux, Infinity and Dreadzone, Dreadzone is one of my favourites. All are cheaper than 40K although warmachine is getting quite pricey.
X-wing miniatures game is good value for money and you get fantastic painted models of tie fighters and x-wings, and it is a great game as well. There are fantastic models of all the smaller Star Wars ships so you can have the the Millenium Falcon up against Boba Fett's Slave One.
Magic the gathering is described even by its fans as cardboard crack so I have never tried it.
A useful site for this sort of stuff is boardgamegeek, I have all my games listed on there (I have over 200! ) and they have detailed descriptions of any game you care to mention.
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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Caedes
Island man,
Precisely the point.
Apognophos,
Coming from someone who doesn't understand the word complexity or how to google basic concepts I will take that as a compliment.
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Caedes
The mistake that annoys me most is when I put in a double space at the end of a sentence. It is due to the fact that my phone auto-corrects this to a full stop, a space and then capitalises the next word. Familiarity and laziness are not a good combination.
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Caedes
Yes, it annoys me. My own spelling and grammar mistakes annoy me even more.
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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Caedes
Prologos,
Black holes are 'just' very dense dead stars that cause very extreme curvature of space-time, I'm unclear how you think they pertain to this conversation since they are part of the natural universe.
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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Caedes
My whole point is that, given the current amount of unknowns that we are all looking at, the relative likelihood of a creator vs. a self-making universe cannot be appraised. Also, lose the condescending attitude.
Apognophos
Then you have missed the point entirely, the point is that the natural universe is the same for both the theist and the atheist. The only difference is that the theist adds a creator.
I take it then that you admit your understanding of the word complexity is at odds with how the rest of the English speaking world uses it? If you choose not to admit it then I shall continue to make fun of you.
Prologos,
Your post is meaningless derp. There is no pre, no outside, I have no idea why you think black holes are important, and there isn't a place outside of time.
Hooberus,
I quite agree there is exactly zero empirical evidence for your god having any parts at all!
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic inchris tann,.
in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .
however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
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Caedes
So we're here because of fluctuations caused by nothing in a field of nothing?
That is a lot more likely than we're here because an infinitely powerful creator caused fluctuations in a field of nothing.
Do you know how to use google? I suggest starting here if you want to start doing some research into how wrong you are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complexity
The whole point is that the number of unkowns in the natural universe is the same for the theist and the atheist so Occam's razor can be used to settle the problem.