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  Four Blood Moons might be significant

  by CharlieSmith1975 in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuqzhnx7xma.

  the bible does say that the "day of jehovah" (armageddon) would be associated with the sun becoming dark followed by the moon turning to blood.

  but the moon turning to blood is specific to a total lunar eclipse.

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  Caedes

  CharlieSmith,

  You tell these faithless heathens what's really going on. I find Deuteronomy 18:10-12 very helpful in these kind of discussions.
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  Wrestling with change, technology, jealousy, and spiritual need...

  by silent in

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  hey gang, i'm a fader and i've made a few posts in the past, but i mostly lurk.

  i had a visit with a family member the other night and they know how i feel about my life as a witness growing up.

  my life as a witness was not fun, i had no friends "in the truth," was picked on relentlessly in school, and basically my life as a witness left me with not one real good memory.

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  Caedes

  If god gave you a mind why is it wrong to use it? The JWs or indeed any religion are never going to have any answers for you because you are always going to be able to see through to the fact that they never give a straight answer to anything.
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  Are we heading for III World War?

  by abiather in

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  the leaders of russia, germany, france and ukraine are slated to meet in minsk (the belarusian capital) tomorrow to discuss a ukrainian peace plan!

  some countries such as hollande believe there is going to be a total war.

  when they met last year in the same place, they had put forward a peace plan (a ceasefire, withdrawal of artillery, prisoner exchanges and other concessions) that were never fully implemented!

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  world war 3 averted. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31435812

  Obviously chicken little will have to wait for the next big news item. 
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  Rationality could be found in Scriptures!

  by abiather in

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  though religions have done enough harm to mankind, it often has to do with the exclusive attitude most of them developed misinterpreting the scriptures.

  thus scriptures were blamed for all the misdeeds of religions.

  this was precipitated by certain verses in scriptures which are obviously interpolated by those with vexed interest..

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  That is going to be one thin book!
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  Are we heading for III World War?

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the leaders of russia, germany, france and ukraine are slated to meet in minsk (the belarusian capital) tomorrow to discuss a ukrainian peace plan!

  some countries such as hollande believe there is going to be a total war.

  when they met last year in the same place, they had put forward a peace plan (a ceasefire, withdrawal of artillery, prisoner exchanges and other concessions) that were never fully implemented!

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  Caedes

  Perry, you have never engaged with anyone who disagrees with you on this board, you run away and then creep out to parrot the same old nonsense time after time. If you genuinely felt that you had something worthwhile to say then you would defend your words. I feel sorry for you that the faith you proclaim so loudly has such shallow roots. You may not like what I say or indeed any of what any of the more rational members of this forum have to say but at least we have the courage of our convictions and stand by it in the face of disagreement.
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  How is Genesis scientifically incorrect?

  by EndofMysteries in

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  i'll add many things in the bible i don't agree with, but the bible is a collection of books.

  now to make sure i'm reading as closely to what is written in genesis, i look at this hebrew interlinear, because english translating and rearranging of words can change it.

  http://www.scripture4all.org/onlineinterlinear/otpdf/gen1.pdf.

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  "I pointed out the moon in the sky to my SIL about 2pm in the afternoon an ex JW  and she didnt beleive it was the moon until I pointed out to her the rise and set of the moon was in our local national  paper."

  I wonder what she thought it was? She must have noticed it before then.  
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  How is Genesis scientifically incorrect?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'll add many things in the bible i don't agree with, but the bible is a collection of books.

  now to make sure i'm reading as closely to what is written in genesis, i look at this hebrew interlinear, because english translating and rearranging of words can change it.

  http://www.scripture4all.org/onlineinterlinear/otpdf/gen1.pdf.

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  RJH,

  How are you deciding that the days clearly referenced are allegorical but the other details are not? 

  How are you deciding that genesis 1:14 that clearly states god made the sun, moon and stars on the fourth day is allegorical.

  As has already been pointed out the use of the word day in the original language is consistent with the meaning of a 24 hour day not an age or period of time. What exactly in genesis suggests that it not be read as it is written?  

  What is your criteria for accepting certain statements in genesis at face value and not others? It sounds to me like you are accepting the statements that confirm your existing bias.

  The simple fact is that the genesis account is at odds with science regarding how the earth formed (long after the stars and long after the sun) which would suggest that the entire genesis passage is at best allegorical in it's entirety. 

   
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  Science increasingly makes the case for god

  by DesirousOfChange in

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  recently got this email from a long-time jw friend who is still "in".thoughts on a tactful response?thanks,doc

  science increasingly makes the case for god.

  the odds of life existing on another planet grow ever longer.. intelligent design, anyone?.

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  Science increasingly makes the case for god

  by DesirousOfChange in

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  recently got this email from a long-time jw friend who is still "in".thoughts on a tactful response?thanks,doc

  science increasingly makes the case for god.

  the odds of life existing on another planet grow ever longer.. intelligent design, anyone?.

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  Caedes

  "woo hoo!

  Another G*d vs Atheist thread!

  not

  Given the plethora of threads on this forum devoted to other topics perhaps you could try posting on one that does interest you then. Heaven forbid that other people should have different interests to you!  
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  'Tracing All Things With Accuracy' - How the Watchtower Society's Writing Department never makes a mistake

  by jwleaks in

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  from the 2011 yearbook of jehovah's witnesses.. source: 'tracing all things with accuracy'.

  tracing all things with accuracy.

  jesus said that the faithful slave would be discreet in giving the domestics their food at the proper time.

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      "Take, for example, the following statement in the brochure Was Life Created? about spider silk being one of the strongest materials on earth: “If enlarged to the size of a football field, a web of dragline silk 0.4 inch thick with strands 1.6 inches apart could stop a jumbo jet in flight!” Although the source for this statement was a reputable science magazine, it was not the original source, and the original source was ambiguous. Therefore, it became necessary to contact the researcher who made the original statement and check how hereached this conclusion. Our researchers also had to find the formula and the information needed to calculate for themselves what impact a jumbo jet might have on a spiderweb the size of a football field. Many hours of research and meticulous calculations eventually confirmed the accuracy of this astounding piece of information."

  I don't believe this for a second. I don't remember my engineering textbooks having any formula for calculating the strength of football field sized spider-webs. Presumably they have a couple of chartered engineers hanging around for just such a question?!