Posts by rootofallevil

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If they had the "truth", wouldn't they stop printing new literature?

by JH in

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the fact that they are coming out with new magazines and new books all the time, can only mean that they haven't found the truth yet.. if they had the truth, they'd be satisfied with their old publications.

rootofallevil

Legolas,

Excellent scripture!!

For those wondering where it is in the Bible: Ecclesiastes 12:12

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How would you react if proof is found that your beliefs are wrong?

by Honesty in

a more complete example of a wrong religious road or overwhelming delusion than what is found in the writings of the watchtower bible and tract society would be difficult to find.

if each jehovah's witness would follow their own guidance and conscience, many more than already have would stream out of the suffocating grip of this man-centered organization and into true liberty.. matt 24:11-12 many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.

because lawlessness will multiply, the love of many will grow cold.

rootofallevil

One of the ancient philosophers once said (and I am paraphrasing)

"Religion believes all. Philosophy doubts all"

I have been tricked too long by the WTS because I hung around with the crowd of the first part of the above statement.

NO MORE!!

I now have adopted the second part of that statement. I doubt everything until I can be convinced otherwise.

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Question to Americans

by Shazard in

does wt loose ground in usa, so thy try to "convert" other parts where people are not informed about jw and wt and probably coz of not knowing english, does not have access to ex-jw information?

rootofallevil

Think,

Those are interesting numbers you posted.

If I may, I would like to add that of that 4% that actually get baptized as a result of the Bible study, a significant number is made up of children being "bible studied" by their parents. What part of that 4% i don't know. If anybody has any ideas, I'd love to hear them.

So in reality, less than 4% are actually coming "in to the truth" as a result of the preaching work. The number of hours required to convert one individual is even greater.

Just a thought!!!

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Leolaia and/or Narkissos, "pseudochristos" = "false anointed"?

by AuldSoul in

i want to make sure i am understanding this correctly.

in the places where jesus is recorded as saying "false christs" would come in his name, is it correct to state that pseudochristos/pseudochristoi literally means "false anointed ones"?.

it didn't make any sense for them to (1) claim to be christ and also (2) claim to know where christ is.. my studies led me to believe that there is no reason (besides tradition) for capitalizing the "c" in translating "christos" in these instances, particularly since the plural form is used.

rootofallevil

As far as the greek translation of the word "pseudochristos" is concerned it is a compound word, made of "pseudo" = false and "christos"= annointed.

When the "c" in christos is capitalized it refers to the annointed Jesus.

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Saved by grace or by works?

by rootofallevil in

according to the wts if we do not produce acts of good work (feild service, attending 5 meetings weekly, circuit and district assemblies etc), we are not worthy of salvation.

according to the bible, we attain salvation through god's undeserved grace ( or kindness in jw lingo).

what i am looking for is scriptural proof that will shoot down the first and support the latter.

rootofallevil

Funkyderek,

I may not have articulated my question correctly. I am looking for a particular verse(s) that I can show to friends of mine that have already developed some doubts about the WTS.

As for myself, I have had questions about my beliefs as a JW for the last few years and have "lurked" on this forum for at least 6 months before having enough nerve to post. From what I have read both on this forum and through the Bible verses that have been quoted at times, I have concluded to my current beliefs. I have not just "plucked" them out of thin air. I appreciate your concern about my "baseless" conclusions, but let me be the judge of that. All I asked for was an answer to my question. If you can contribute somehow to it, it would be appreciated.

To everyone else that has posted on this topic, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Not just for this particular topic, but for being there many times as I struggled to set things straight in my head. Especially after 30 years of WT brainwashing.

Everyday I look forward to logging on and "associating" with all of you through this forum. Even though I may not post as often as most of you, I read through every single post on a daily basis.

Thank you.

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Saved by grace or by works?

by rootofallevil in

according to the wts if we do not produce acts of good work (feild service, attending 5 meetings weekly, circuit and district assemblies etc), we are not worthy of salvation.

according to the bible, we attain salvation through god's undeserved grace ( or kindness in jw lingo).

what i am looking for is scriptural proof that will shoot down the first and support the latter.

rootofallevil

So, works are the result of the grace that has been bestowed upon us.

These works obviously come naturally once an individual is granted grace. They are the result, not the requirement to gain God's grace (fig tree).

These works are in the form of good deeds, and a deep appreciation for God and all that he does for us. They are not limited to that but do they also include the preaching, meeting and assembly attendance requirements etc? I think not.

I beleive these are mechanisms the WTS uses to keep us feeling unworthy and to strive even harder to peddle their literature. After all, isn't that the Great Scheme. Selling the publications of the great printing corporation by the name of WTS?

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Saved by grace or by works?

by rootofallevil in

according to the wts if we do not produce acts of good work (feild service, attending 5 meetings weekly, circuit and district assemblies etc), we are not worthy of salvation.

according to the bible, we attain salvation through god's undeserved grace ( or kindness in jw lingo).

what i am looking for is scriptural proof that will shoot down the first and support the latter.

rootofallevil

Hello all,

According to the WTS if we do not produce acts of good work (feild service, attending 5 meetings weekly, circuit and district assemblies etc), we are not worthy of salvation.

According to the Bible, we attain salvation through God's undeserved grace ( or kindness in JW lingo).

What I am looking for is scriptural proof that will shoot down the first and support the latter.

Personally it doesn't make a difference. I beleive in the "grace" theory. However, I need the "scriptural evidence" for my friends whom I am trying to help see the lies they have been served all these years!

Thanks for any help

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Birthday

by rootofallevil in

i know this has been brought up before but can someone remind me how we can explain the phrase "on his own day" mentioned in job 1:4 as meaning "on ones birthday"?

if i remember correctly, in the same book (job) a few chapters later there is a mention of this phrase which clearly shows that it was on their birthday.

also isn't it interesting that job felt obligated to offer burnt sacrifises in case one of his children had "cursed god in their heart".

rootofallevil

moggy lover,

many thanks. Job 3:1-3 is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for the detailed hebrew explanations as well.

Almostatheist,

thanks for that link. Very logical thoughts on why birthdays should at least not be condemned if not celebrated.

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Birthday

by rootofallevil in

i know this has been brought up before but can someone remind me how we can explain the phrase "on his own day" mentioned in job 1:4 as meaning "on ones birthday"?

if i remember correctly, in the same book (job) a few chapters later there is a mention of this phrase which clearly shows that it was on their birthday.

also isn't it interesting that job felt obligated to offer burnt sacrifises in case one of his children had "cursed god in their heart".

rootofallevil

I know this has been brought up before but can someone remind me how we can explain the phrase "on his own day" mentioned in Job 1:4 as meaning "on ones birthday"?

If I remember correctly, in the same book (Job) a few chapters later there is a mention of this phrase which clearly shows that it was on their birthday.

Also isn't it interesting that Job felt obligated to offer burnt sacrifises in case one of his children had "cursed God in their heart". Sounds to me like a banquet with a serious overindulgement of alcohol!

Thanks for any help.

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Can a divorcee remarry scripturally?

by rootofallevil in

i have been visiting this board for the last six months and it has opened my eyes!.

i feel like i was tricked into this religion - since 1975.

i would like to say thanks to all who post on this forum.

rootofallevil

LT and Earnest,

This is the point.

If the vow has been dissolved by husband or wife - for any reason except porneia, why should the other party still be obligated to honor it?

Where does God's undeserved kindness kick in?