Aww shucks...I opened this thread hoping to find out that god had a change of heart about the typically puritanical stance of Christianity on sex, and had sent an invading army of MILFs to rehabilitate humanity.
AllAlongTheWatchtower
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Jehovah is responsible for latest cougar attack
by cultswatter inin the early days the dinosaurs roamed the earth.
the tyrannosoras rex would tear into the brontosauras with great shrieks of glee from jehovah and the angels.
the large dinos are all gone but some of the smalller ones survived.
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Why we are in Iraq? (History of oil)
by IP_SEC inthis is a long video but cut up into smaller chunks.
would be interested in your thoughts.. .
part 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ecd6361ls.
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
I'm always irked by people on various international sites I am a part of, who imply or outrate state that the US went to war strictly for oil. I am not naive enough to think it played NO part, but I always like to point out to such individuals the following things:
Gas in my area was about $1.05 just prior to 9/11. I bought gas a couple days ago, it was $2.70; where's all this oil we got? Supply and demand says that if there were more oil now, it should be CHEAPER... so where is my .75 cent gas? I could sure use it, being a pizza delivery driver.
The war has seen thousands of air support missions...each fighter jet carries and burns about 10,000 gallons, I believe...anybody care to find the figures for this supposed ill-gotten oil, and compare it to the amount of oil EXPENDED in the Iraq campaign? This point is no doubt related to my first point.
According to this site, the USAF uses roughly 7 million gallons of aviation fuel per DAY, and spent 5.8 billion dollars on fuel alone in 2006. Aviation fuel is highly refined, volatile stuff. I have no idea how many gallons of it can be obtained from 1 barrel of oil, but I'm betting the ratio is not good:
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I Can't Believe it! I got DF'ed!
by RollerDave inyes my friends,.
rollerdave has been disfellowshipped, but not by any elder, and without anything approaching process.. i believe i had previously mentioned the ugly situation my niece finds herself in:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/18/136762/1.ashx.
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
My condolences on your tough day and generally screwy situation, which you manage to relate in an entertaining way (yes, I've been following along).
RE the missing coolant: How's the heat working in your van? Silly question in the middle of summer, I know, but I once owned a Chevy Beretta that made coolant vanish like David Copperfield was driving. It turned out to be a bad heater core. Check your passenger side carpeting and floorboard area for dampness of any kind. Apologies if you know about this possibility already and I seem condensending.
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UN finally announces end of Religion
by NotaNess inthis seems to be a topic on the beginning of the big a, that i dont see on this forum.
a jw i work with seems to live his life waiting & emphasizing this one sign.
whats deal, im tired of hearing.
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
Considering how recent pronouncements of the pope have stirred up some cross-faith discontent, it's extremely unlikely in the near future, but IF the UN were to attempt any such thing, I would imagine that it'd be far easier to institute some sort of watered down ecumenism than it would be to ban religion outright. Of course, that assumes somebody could find a way to deal with the radical religous elements such as the Islamic terrorists and such. Something along the lines of the Orange Catholic religion depicted in Frank Herbert's "Dune".
Inevitably, if THAT actually happened, every dub from here to hell and back would be screeching about how it was the prophecy fulfilled, the beast is here, blah blah blah. Speaking from a purely secular point of view, it might not be a bad thing if such a thing happened, and indeed might be a required step on the way to what I believe to be the best case scenario for mankind: universal atheism. What better way to make religion obsolete than to make it universal, and minimally invasive or important?
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For the ladies:
by AllAlongTheWatchtower inis it ok to lie, or lie by omission of information, to your wife, if the motive is saving them stress or grief?.
i feel that my wife and i have a very good relationship, very open, we usually tell each other everything.
as i revealed in someone else's topic recently though, i am a pizza delivery driver...and last night i escaped an attempted robbery.
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
Thanks ladies, you've basically confimed my thoughts on the matter. I guess that was all I really was after, validation or whatever you want to call it.
For the record, of course nobody is going to think to ask 'were you almost robbed tonight?', what I was feeling might be dishonest was that I got home a bit late, after talking to the police extensively; giving what description I could, relating the incident, etc. So I just said something about work taking longer than usual when she asked why I hadn't gotten home on time. True...to a point.
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For the ladies:
by AllAlongTheWatchtower inis it ok to lie, or lie by omission of information, to your wife, if the motive is saving them stress or grief?.
i feel that my wife and i have a very good relationship, very open, we usually tell each other everything.
as i revealed in someone else's topic recently though, i am a pizza delivery driver...and last night i escaped an attempted robbery.
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
Is it ok to lie, or lie by omission of information, to your wife, if the motive is saving them stress or grief?
I feel that my wife and I have a very good relationship, very open, we usually tell each other everything. As I revealed in someone else's topic recently though, I am a pizza delivery driver...and last night I escaped an attempted robbery. It wasn't that big a deal, I was not injured in any way. Because my wife just gave birth a few days ago, and the labor was very hard on her (4th degree episiotomy tear, for those who know what that is) and the baby, I decided not to tell her about this. I didn't want to stress her out. I can't help but feel a little guilty about it though...I could tell her at a later date, but she might get just as upset at that time, or more so, for me witholding the information in the first place...thus defeating the purpose of trying to spare her emotions.
I realize that the times when men used to say inane things like you see in old movies such as "don't you worry your pretty little head about it" are long gone, and rightfully so, but I kinda feel like in this case maybe silence is indeed golden. There's a law for 'justifiable homocide'...is there a relationship rule for justifiable lying?
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Cat is in trouble- advice?
by Insomniac inmy mom's cat got into some of her embroidery floss and swallowed it.. this was maybe three days ago.
her vet won't see him, too busy.
he's not eating much at all now, and i fear the worst.
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
A friend of mine who was a dog owner stayed with me for a short time once a few years ago...his dog got into the garbage one day and swallowed those red plastic circles you're left with after you peel them off some brands of bologna. About a day later, he had to messily and disgustingly assist the doggy when it passed them, but all was well. So there is hope for kitty.
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Michael Vick Indicted On DogFighting Charges!
by SWALKER init looks like there is some strong evidence, at least enough to charge him with numerous counts, including cruelty to animals.
if found guilty he could face prison time.
it's hard for me to believe that he was willing to risk his hard earned success for this dispicable behavior!
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
I say the following knowing full well I risk being flamed, but:
I've never seen the big deal from the beginning of all this hype. Oh, I know, the PETA types and other bleeding hearts get all bent out of shape that the poor doggies got killed. But animals get killed in other pastimes that are legal, and considered "sporting". Oh sure, PETA types still get upset if a thoroughbred is 'put down', but nobody would give a damn if Vick owned racehorses. Nobody would give a damn if he was a hunter, and shot deer every year...well, maybe a few would, but he wouldn't have federal agents climbing up his arse with a flashlight.
What it all boils down to is money, and pet ownership. People more readily sympathize with animals that are kept for pets, the average citizen doesn't own a horse these days, and certainly not a thoroughbred-it's outside their consideration. But many people DO own dogs, so when dogs die, people are upset. I highly doubt that the government has made dogfights illegal out of the goodness of their heart, either. If it weren't for the fact that big money is bet on these fights, the government wouldn't give a damn either...oh wait, but horseraces are bet on too...OHHHH yeah, that's at LEGAL racetracks where the government can cash in and collect taxes.
For that matter, there are many more concerned over this issue than who care about the human 'animals' we call professional athletes, some of whom die also. Wasn't it just last year that an offensive lineman in the NFL died of heat stroke or something during practice? Probably on page 6 of your paper, buried in the sports section. But Vick had something to do with dogfights, holy cow, that's front page news.
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Watchtower deliberately lying?
by AllAlongTheWatchtower ini remember a topic a couple months ago, something about whether the gb actually believed in what they taught.
other topics have been similar lately, and today i noticed the topic about google 'proving' that the wts deliberately lies.
but is it deliberate?
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
To Sarah Smiles: I noticed that ad too, and clicked on it out of curiousity. Apparently it comes up because it's a religious blog, and one of the first couple paragraphs contains the word "cognizance", it appears that is close enough to "cognitive dissonance", which was used in my post, to make Google key on it.
So far it seems the overwhelming majority believe that the higher ups in the tower are indeed deliberately lying...still interested in hearing more opinions.
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Watchtower deliberately lying?
by AllAlongTheWatchtower ini remember a topic a couple months ago, something about whether the gb actually believed in what they taught.
other topics have been similar lately, and today i noticed the topic about google 'proving' that the wts deliberately lies.
but is it deliberate?
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AllAlongTheWatchtower
I remember a topic a couple months ago, something about whether the GB actually believed in what they taught. Other topics have been similar lately, and today I noticed the topic about Google 'proving' that the WTS deliberately lies. But IS it deliberate? Oh sure, I'm convinced they're deliberately misleading, such as how they leave out sources of quotes and such. And I've seen folks here on the board demonstrate how the society has flip-flopped on doctrine, and they strongly discourage researching old literature to prevent people from discovering the changes. All of which can be said is lying, to a degree.
But I want to cut straight to the chase. Do you actually think that overall, the society deliberately lies to people? Meaning, do they themselves actually believe what they're saying? In their minds, is Armageddon really right around the corner, and all that. Obviously, most of the rank and file are sincere; or they would leave. They may be at the point where they have doubts that might one day wind up bringing them here and be suffering from dissonance because of it, but they're probably at least trying to go about their lives as
theythe WTS think they should.What I'm getting at is much more blatant than cognitive dissonance, though. I want to know if anybody thinks that the upper echelons are simply outright lying, to maintain monetary advantage, power, or any other reason. It would seem impossible to me, if promotion is from within, for anybody to get to that high a level in the organization, and simply not believe any of it on that large a scale, though. Yet somehow, it seems odd that some of the things they have done could have ever been done, if somebody at or near the top didn't just think the whole thing was a farce. Like the UN for example. Though, I suppose, one could argue that was similar to the Moses and the water from the rock incident...the leadership simply got a bit uppity with themselves, but were still sincere.
Thoughts?