as you may know from my previous posts, i am fairly new to being an xjw, having taken may decision about 3 weeks ago.
during this time i have read the information about blood on jwfacts and in isofcf, for example,.... so yesterday, much to my wife's chagrin, i tore up my blood card in front of her.. i wanted to drive home a point... she will be needing surgery soon, and has told me that she does not want blood.
i wanted to demonstrate to her that i no longer agree with the blood policy.... and i even went so far as to check about donating blood.
Healthcare proxy or power of attorney, this is a good document for all to have, it authorizes someone to make medical decisions of all kinds for you when you are unconscious, unable to make your own. Each state or country has its own rules and format. Check on google.
I totally agree, I got one after I was divorced because of my immediate family all being witnesses. Congratulations Gilead, one step at a time. :-)
that's an 'ever so slightly' adapted quote from tophat on another thread; http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/108341/2880755/post.ashx#2880755.
i've been really dismissive of god/s, religion, faith and the abandoning of reason but when it comes to the 'argument from design', well you just have to give it a bit more .
respect?
I believe there is the possiblity of intelligent design, but I do not believe it in the divine sense or the "God" sense. I think that we have about created explanations because we are unwilling to realize that we are just one of many other beings in this universe and beyond.
God is just a word, there are many "gods". Creator is just a word. There are many creators walking around today. People bow down and worship something they have never seen, create religion to make sense out of their life, when logical reasonable explanations for many things are out there.
But honestly, I don't think we truly know all the answers on how this world was created or by whom.
did any of you hear any of the urban legends that jw's used to scare people into being deathly afraid of demons?
for example i remeber hearing that a child brough a smurf doll to a meeting and upon hearing the name jehovah uttered it got up and walked out.
got any j-dub urban legends?
LOL! This thread is hilarious. I always said that the JW religion is a demon obsessed organization. Every noise, unexplained event is related to a demon. Every abnormal behavior is incited it might be demonized.
The most insane urban legand I ever heard was a PO who went around telling people that one time he knocked on the door of someone and he levitated, had green eyes and spoke in "tongues" - he was consorting with a demon when the PO knocked on the door. Some time later this PO was found dead in his home, unexplained, but the implication was that someone this demon he saw that day had imbedded himself in the brother's body - supposedly they found tons of demonic/occult literature, Ouija boards in his bedroom locked away...
what kind of a relationship are we suppose to have with jesus christ?
What I find most interesting about this question is that people still refuse to believe that he is a 'creation'.
Even historical backs up that it took 300 years for the bible to be canonized, which means it was written, re-written, books taken out, books added, many different versions, ideology were extended into it. Every written word of Jesus in the bible and his accounts were written many years after his supposed life. No one actually lived at the time of what is written. And most of what is acribed to "Jesus" is from Pagan beliefs and myths that have been around since the beginning of written word. Virgin birth = pagan belief, walking on water = myth, dead and then coming back to life to a chosen few = myth.
Then he has been created, recreated, life/death so many times, depending on who you talk to, everyone has a different version. It is my complete belief that Jesus the divinity is a complete and utter man made creation that people needed to have. If you worship Jesus, then worship Zeus, Baal, Aphrodite, because they are all on the same level.
How can you have a relationship with something that was created by mankind because we needed a "savior"?
i remember about twenty years ago some teenagers were caught fornicating in one of the additional schools.
the schools were downstairs, essentially separated from the rest of the kh.
they weren't just happened upon, though.
At an assembly in Dartmouth, NS, one of the local apostates (crazy, crazy man even the non-JW's would kick them out of their places) walked across the ice level of the arena wearing a Burger King crown yelling, "I'm your king! Worship me!"
I think I would have paid hard money to see that. LOL!
i see this a lot on this forum, loads of people saying they left jw's because of "hypocritical ....... ( put elder, pioneer, couple, sister, brother, governing body) here.. but?.
why would you expect any man-run organisation if you believe the bible, to have to be perfect and not be full of imperfect people that will come across as hypocritical?.
the bible examples from israelites onwards name anyone :- moses, king david, pharasees, paul the one thing the bible doesn't do is white-wash them it shows that however much we follow the laws we are always fighting our own imperfection usually failing every time and needing to be corrected sometimes punished (moses had to give-up chance of seeing the foretold land), so why do we hold this against jw's as a reasons not to be a jw's anymore?.
Well I can only speak for myself, and I think everyone has done a brilliant job already.
I was not stumbled because of imperfect people, I was disgusted, disenchanted, no longer needed to be herded to understand God by a very imperfect infinitely destructive belief system. I have seen instances where women have been raped, beat by their husbands and "the society" pressured these women to stay. I have known of child abusers, who were forced into the family, women treated like secondary citizens. Something I don't like to discuss much, but when I was 8 I lost my brother to the refusal of a blood tranfusion. It took me years to come to terms with that, and you know what, my family refused to for many many years.
And the bible is far from perfect, sorry to challenge you, but the bible has been rewritten over 300 years, through the hands of people with different ideologies. It's a great book - a book of stories, but if anyone doesn't realize that a lot of those things are not true, did not happen exactly as was written, that the so-called instances of people's lives, even Jesus was written many years after the fact, by people who didn't even know the person they were writing about.
Religion is man trying to interpret God, but God is not a religion. I am wagering that even the most bonifide "religion" has about 2% of what the spiritual realm (if you believe in that type of thing) correct, the rest of it is all theology, doctrine, cultural ideas that are meshed with a belief system. I am free, I don't need that.
I don't need a group of men that ordained themselves to be the directors of my life, who I talk to and what I should believe. No one needs to be part of that "organization" in order to be happy or fulfilled in their lives, in fact, there are a lot of unhappy, unfree, controlled miserable people in the JW religion, so again, everyone walks their path, but the one I am walking, I am absolutely convinced is the best one for me and I am very happy about it.
i hope you guys are right about the book study being removed, .
i already told a few jws and they are shocked, i even told 2 elders, they are both surprised and one of them dont believe me he thinks its regarding the field service, maybe a special tract.
i wanted to show off and be a real "know it all" hahah.
I was almost about to tell a few people about this, but I am half and half on this and I will simply wait.
i posted this in my profile but since i've never formally introduced myself, i thought i would print it here as well as my official "hello" message.
i am currently an active jw.
i don't want to be but the situation i am in doesn't allow me to do anything differently.
Welcome. Pull up a chair and stay a while. You are in good company.
i remember about twenty years ago some teenagers were caught fornicating in one of the additional schools.
the schools were downstairs, essentially separated from the rest of the kh.
they weren't just happened upon, though.
my wife pranced back from the bathroom with the back of her entire skirt shoved into pantyhose causing an elder to nearly tackle her half way to the front of the hall. She had a playboy ass btw.
I have seen that before and it is quite embarassing.
I have also been told my ass is one of my best "ass"ets. LOL!
to grasp that the basic purpose of science is to produce useful models of reality.
how to help him understand that trying to make observable reality "fit" around a collection of writings designed in its first half to inspire the oftentimes persecuted jewish people and in its second to consolidate the fragmented roman empire is an exercise in futility?.
sorry, burn.. i couldn't resist.. hope you're having a wonderful day,.
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