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i already bought 2 door cars, and the witnesses didn't like it... i felt looked down upon, as it was a sin to buy a 2 door car.. now imagine an elder buying a 2 door car....
I knew this VERY arogant(sp?) PO that always counceled people on 'showy display's', but
was such a big hypocrit. Just before we left that congregation, he had bought a brand new
red 2 door sports car convertable, not much later than that, him and his wife bought a HUGE house
in the hills. It was just the 2 of them, no children. You think it would have caused a scandal of
some sorts, but nobody said anything about it, i guess his status in the congregtion has something to
do with that.
BC
so my brother and i have been having talks about what will happen when our dad passes away eventually.
most of his brothers and sisters have died in their 50's or early 60's.
i flat out refuse to attend any part of the service that would be done at the kingdom hall.
When the time comes, you might feel differently than you do now. Personally, i would not step foot in a KH unless it
was a close family member.
If your parents are not willing to put forth an effort to fix your relationship, you can always just assure them that you
will always be open to a realtionship when they are ready, and just leave it at that. At least you leave the ball in their
court. I did that with my family, they seem to be coming around little by little.
Good luck, i hope that everything works out for you!
BC
watchtower, july 15, 1995:.
disfellowshippinga loving provision?.
"holy, holy, holy is jehovah god, the almighty.
When a family member is disfellowshipped, Christian relatives experience pain. Appointed elders should therefore do their best to be spiritually refreshing to them. (1 Thessalonians 5:14) Elders can pray for them and with them. Often it is possible to visit these faithful Christians to discuss upbuilding Scriptural thoughts. Shepherds of the flock should use every opportunity to strengthen these dear ones spiritually before and after Christian meetings. Additional encouragement can be given by accompanying them in the field ministry. (Romans 1:11, 12) Spiritual shepherds need to show these faithful servants of Jehovah the love and attention they deserve.—1 Thessalonians 2:7, 8.
Show that your disfellowshipped family member is wrong and evil, and one's in the congregation are loving and good, and in fact can take the
place of your family. If this doesnt say 'Cult', i dont know what does.
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my friend told me that she knows of someone who wants to make a grand exit.
it's just a matter of time before she is df'd.
because she is on reproof and well has a vagina she cannot announce her da from the stage.
Or, just rip off a trench coat and go streaking across the hall.
BC
good news friends-you can all go back now- the watchtower has dfd all on the governing body that was with the un for those 10 years-----also 678 of the annointed have been dfd for not seing this stupid mistake- also from now on you will not have to turn time in each month- this will mean one will witness out of love instead of pleasing the elder in charge of the time slips- also beginning in sept the watchtower will only be printed once a month- there will be 5 spiritual food lessons in the seetower this will give us all we need for a month--also in order to get the work done we have also cut the awake down to once a month--this will free up the brothers to take care of their properties like those in the world do-and also when a child has been touched or abused he must call 911 right away--this will keep the congreation much cleaner- also for those 3 day hot sunny assemblies that also has been cut to one day- mothers can bring strollers- because the people who made strollers made them for a reason--also no more meetings at the friends home for a book study--they need their home like everybody else does--and also starting in october there will only be one meeting a week--we can all get enough of spiritual food out of that one day--and also if one wants to celebrate christmas that will be on his or her conscience- they are not to be looked down upon---also if one is in need of a blood transfusion that person has that right- it is no bodys business--also elders are no longer allowed to walk around like roosters as if they are the cock of the flock- the elders no longer will walk around before a meeting shuffling a lot of paper like they do at the pentagon---yes friends things are looking better--it feels so good to have seen the light--well we always told you the light was getting brighter--now you know what we meant---and to all those older ones who loved country music like hank williams- merle haggard-conway twitty -johnny cash--etc--you may now buy their cds and it wont be considered idioltary anymore-you can also now buy a 2 door car and no one will say you are not theocratic- they will be dfd if they say anything--mothers that have young children may not touch that child--you can now go home early if the child acts up-also ray franz is coming back to be our leader- we owe that brother so much--i only hope we can make it up to him before armageddon--we can now say good morning to others going to church on sundays- after all they are human like us-we also have appointed a elder to answer all your doubts- you now have the right to ask anything that worries you or anything yo have doubts about--it will be noones businss about your doubts--so stay tuned flock--better things are coming--
me thinks you've had one too many.
get some sleep, it will be all better in the morning!
BC
i had to sit through those experiences at the convention, i was wondering, did any of you used to be one of those people on stage giving an experience about how something miraculously happened like getting the exact amount of money you needed to pay your rent on the day it was due?
i always hear the stories, but can anybody actually tell me something like this has happened to them when they were a good little witness?
and if it has, did these sort of "events" stop taking place after you left?
I knew of an "annointed" sister that was very poor. But she had been saving
her money for a better car. Well, she didnt have much saved up, just a couple
thousand, but while out on service she came across this man selling a luxury
automobile (mercedes or something), well she offered him the money she had
saved up, the man laughed at her and said that the car was worth lot more, but
she left him her phone number just in case. WELL, wouldnt you know it, he
called her that very same day and sold her the car for what she had offered.
Of course she said it was "jehoba looking out for his sheep, and blessing her efforts".
Devine Intervention?? i think not.. I call it being at the right place at the right time!
BC
i thought i would give a quick bio of myself.
i was raised a dubber.
every stinkin' family member of mine is a jw including a huge extended family.
wow, what a heartfelt post. It seems you had some big shoes to fill in the
congregation. I know how hard it is to be dissconnected from family.
I was born and raised in as well, i have been out almost 3 years and still
ask myself those very same questions "who am i", it seems that it has always
been laid out for us, we were "suppose" to be this hardcore witness and never
question that. College or anything else was never an option for us, i knew that
from early. So, like you.. i am going back to school too.
Thank you for your post, too many here know all too well what you are feeling
and going through. I wish you the best, and i hope that you will be able to get
the answer to your questions.
As far as "fading"or DA-ing, you will know what to do when your ready. If you
want to try and keep your family close, then fading would be your option.
Either way, live life and be happy. I am so happy your wife left with you, you can
be such a wonderful support system for eachother. Good luck.. Oh, and
Welcome!
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hello everyone, just wanted to say hello and let you know a bit about my story and tell you how thankful i am that i found this site!.
i was never a baptized jw although in the early 90's i studied for about 3 years and was an un-baptized publisher for about 1 year before my doubts about some of the beliefs and also my inability to overlook the constant hypocracy of the elders did me in.
sadly it was not before i dragged the love of my life into it, and also my sister (they are both baptized although she left after seeing the elders double standards when it came to doling out counsel/punishment to their own families, he is still in) anyway even though i couldn't bring myself to commit to the org because of the crap i saw going on in the 2 different halls i attended i still believed it was the truth...what an idiot!
Welcome!
You were smart to open your eyes early on, and not have to
figure this out 30 years later. Good for you for getting out!
Good luck to you, i hope you find comfort here!
BC
i'm not talking about deeminz and gawds, or the supernatural here, just the state of being spiritual.
what accounts for it in the evolutionary model?
muchos gracias amigos.
Spirituality for everyone is very different and personal. I would say that it is within me, to have love
for myself, and have love and respect for others. To love and respect our earth, and treat others as
i would want to be treated. The birth of my son was an amazing experience, its the point that i learned
to love more deeply than i would have ever thought possible. For me and my husband, it suits us just
to know that we are good people.
BC
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the witnesses say that they put the kingdom first in their lives, and that the rest of the world puts pleasures and money and sex first.. a kind of black and white picture of them and the world.. so, you evil people .
Interesting topic, its something to think about since your life had
been mapped out for you. For me its...
Family : my son and husband
Myself: happiness, health
Friends: taking care of my relationships
Money/Career: making sure we have all we need and want
Beyond that, i dont know. Just taking one day at a time.
