Posts by JWdaughter

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Breaking News: Berry girls lose high court appeal

by loveis in

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with those two short, sweet, words of the nh supreme court, the berry girls 4-year fight to hold the wts responsible has come to an abrupt and bitter end.. a preliminary scan of the opinion indicates a virtual slam-dunk victory for the wts, although there was one dissenting justice out of the four on one issue only, the only female justice of the four.

(coincidence?

hmmm......).

JWdaughter

I don't know if things ARE changing yet, although there are some signs of hope. . .I do however know that I will be speaking with MY local congresspersons. I wish I would have a little earlier-as primaries are tomorrow, but I think it is a good thing to pursue. If there is a duty to report, there should be some consequences for NOT doing so. Serious ones, as the things they are NOT reporting are quite serious. I feel that in light of the place that the church, religion, faith etc has in our society that there should be a HIGHER duty by those in religious authority to protect weaker ones, whether they are in or out of the church in question. In any church where there is any amount of control--and it isn't just KH's/Jehovah's Witnesses/Watchtower, there is more likelihood that many things will never go further than the elders unless the elders take it further. Child abuse, of any kind, should be reported-or they should be treated as accomplices to the crime. If a teacher did not report abuse, they would be fired and sued. Why not a minister(or a reasonable facsimile thereof-such as an JW elder)? Shelly

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Could the Watchtower handle a huge increase in numbers?

by JH in

less than 1% of people in america are jw's.

now imagine if 10 or 20% of people became jw's.

could the watchtower handle the numbers?.

JWdaughter

Fortunately that is not an issue they will ever have to face!

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I finally made it in to see the Dr.

by WildHorses in

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and what i have is depression.

i've been prescribed prozac and for a short time xanax.

i will only be on the xanax for about two weeks.

JWdaughter

I know that you can overcome depression. I have experienced it off and on. The most important thing-you are already doing! Being able to admit it, and asking for help is the best thing you can do. I had it the worst after my 2nd baby. Prozac for a few months was worth it. I also used Selenium, which I think helped also. I continued on with that for some time after stopping the prozac. I am pleased for you that you took the step to ask for help. You will feel so much better-just knowing that you aren't alone and it is treatable and something that can be overcome-one way or another. Blessings to you-I hope this works well for you-but if it doesnt', it doesn't mean anything is wrong with you-just means you need to try another medication or treatment. Shelly

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Could this be a way to sue the WTS for disfellowshipping?

by sinis in

http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/vii.html.

an act.

to enforce the constitutional right to vote, to confer jurisdiction upon.

JWdaughter

Now, though, JWs simply say that someone is "no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses" which results in shunning in any case. If shunning was shown to BE church discipline, could this perhaps be used in a lawsuit.

*** w84 7/1 31 Questions From Readers *** . . .Or, as mentioned in John 6:66, occasionally a Witness on his own initiative will decide to leave the way of truth. He may even make known his decision after the committee begins to look into his wrongdoing. He may inform them in writing, or state before witnesses, that he wants to disassociate himself from the congregation and not be known as a Witness. Then it will no longer be necessary for the elders to continue their investigation. However, the elders would then make a brief announcement of his disassociation so that the congregation will know that he ?went out from us.? (1 John 2:19) They then will adhere to the inspired injunction ?not to receive such a one into their homes or say a greeting to him, so as not to become sharers in his wicked works.??2 John 10, 11.

Hence, people are not compelled to remain a part of the congregation. But the vast majority of Jehovah?s Witnesses have the attitude of the apostles who voluntarily stuck by Jesus, receiving his spiritual help and enjoying the warm fellowship of God?s congregation.?Luke 22:28. (end of quote)

It seems to me that ASSUMING a person who leaves the WT is involved in 'wicked works' is a bit of a slander from the get go. The teaching to "not recieve such a one" in this case is not biblical, it is made up by the WT to keep anyone who doesnt believe in IT (the WT) from being heard or spoken to. That is enforcing a church discipline on one who has left voluntarily.

*** w91 4/15 15-16 Will You Imitate God's Mercy? *** Expelling him would prevent his wickedness from dishonoring both God and His people. The severe discipline of being disfellowshipped might also shock him to his senses and instill in him and the congregation due fear of God.?1 Corinthians 5:1-13; compare Deuteronomy 17:2, 12, 13.

The "severe discipline" is a CHURCH or CONGREGATIONAL discipline, and is meted out to both those who have been forced out and those who resign. According to the lawsuits, a person who voluntarily resigns is not to be subjected to church discipline. Yet that is what the WT does to those who leave.

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Is There Anything Positive About Being A Jehovah's Witness?

by minimus in

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i recently went to a wedding and the father of the bride that (re)married a (worldly) man said to me, "the only thing that i can say about raising our kids as witnesses was at least they got a good foundation.

look at our kids.

they're good kids".

JWdaughter

I know how to find all my Bible books, and selected (very) scriptures. I am still working on actually getting all of them in context though!

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Should I marry a JW ?

by curiousabouthim in

i am new to the jw world, not one, but do love one.

met a man who down to the tee is amazing.

he is a great man, the only thing i am not so sure about is his "religious" beliefs.

JWdaughter

Welcome to the forum.

NO! If he just wants you to 'read' with him, he is already hopeful that he can lead you to "the truth". He may be very sincere in his love for you, but he is a dedicated witness, goes to all the meetings. . .he is assuming you will bow to peer pressure before kids are an issue. He may not think he is being dishonest with you, but their whole goal is to bring people into the organization, and he will be 'reasoning from the scriptures' with you until your brain is turned inside out with the convoluted teachings. Don't fall for it.

He may be 'perfect in every way' but this is a recipe for disaster. If he was Catholic and you were Episcolpalian, it could work. If one was Baptist and another a Methodist, it could work. But JWs believe that everyone who is NOT JW is going to be destroyed at Armageddon. EVERYONE, including your children! How can you believe that this man who says he loves you now will allow his children to be part of a world that he thinks will result in their eventual destruction by Jehovah God? There is no way.

He is counting on you being malleable and giving in to his religious teachings and getting baptised. No matter what he says. I was raised a JW and I know how they think. That he even dates you and considers marriage with you indicates to me that he may not be totally under the WT mind think, but once he is married-he will be pressured like crazy. He *may*(not sure how the cong. would react to his marrying you) also be disfellowshipped, which could be a blessing or a curse-because if he DOES really believe all that, then he will be devastated, and YOU will be the focal of his disappointment.

You really need to understand all the implications. Theres more, but I don't want to give you nightmares. You might want to check out http://www.youtube.com/confirm_email?cid=FFCD69098CA4A53C and hear quotes of what the WT org. teachings are about non-JWs (all of them) and think about how that would translate in a marriage relationship.

Some welcome. I am sorry I sound harsh, but marriage is hard enough!

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Tower of Fear--VIdeo

by JWdaughter in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-yr5fw1udu&nr .

this was interesting.

JWdaughter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Yr5fw1uDU&NR

This was interesting.

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What does your REAL name mean?

by Peaches-n-Cream in

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jordon is hebrew and it means "to descend or flow"....ha~!

not very interesting, .

.

JWdaughter

My name means "Who is like God?" Or "One who is like God", depending on the person defining it. Or it would, but my mom added an A to the end because every girl in the world in 1965/6 was apparently named Michelle or some variation of it. Mom wanted to be unique. Therefore my name means I spell it for people a lot and hear people say "Oh, thats kind of pretty" when what they really mean is-What the hell??? It means I had teachers tell me I was misspelling it, and that I was misPRONOUNCING my OWN name. . .They were going to name me Lisa but when I was a twin she wanted names that were 'cute' together. If she would have named me Lisa, I am convinced I would have been popular. . .

Sorry, sore point.

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The most annoying issues you found within the organization were ...

by The wanderer in

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untitled document  the things that seemed to bother us the most before leaving the organization there were a number of.

things that used to bother me within the organization.. for example, the time that the organization use to.

absorb, it seemed that i gave more than i received.

JWdaughter

The spy system. Or as I thought of it at the time-Narking. For some reason it is our duty to tattle on people?? And the reproof thing was humiliating. They never come out and say why, they insinuate (and often go beyond the original issue making the person look WORSE)in a talk about what the problem is. So rude. And dresses for women, and ties for men-what are those things but mens rules? Do they think Jesus put on a suit after his 40 days in the Wilderness-or his best robe? I doubt any of those guys were more worried about hygiene than the Law required (which was pretty rudimentary).

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in love with a very confused jw

by limitless in

hi guys,.

this is a fairly long story, so bear with me.... twelve years ago i dated a jw man briefly in new york.

we got along really well, but he stopped calling.

JWdaughter

You have a couple of issues here, but I guess you need to decide if you want to go through it all with him-not knowing how it will end. And you need to decide if you can overcome the deception. You may want to help him out of the religion (or not), but in the end, you need to be able to trust him with your heart and soul(if you were to be in a marriage or long term relationship). I don't know if you want to go through all the hard work religion wise if his character is just plain lacking. If this is out of character-as someone said above-JWs don't know HOW to be honest in some things-then he may be able to re-learn a bad learned behavior.

I hope he is worth all the angst to you.

Shelly of the 'mortified by my spelling' class