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  Why are some of you guys calling this new arrangement tithing?

  by neverendingjourney in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the risk of being shouted down, i thought i'd point out that "tithing" means giving 10 percent of your income to a church.

  it comes from the old english word teogotha meaning tenth.

  i've seen nothing that establishes tithing in the watchtower.. while i'm all in favor of pointing out the watchtower's lies, hypocrisies and faults, the language we use matters.

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  JWdaughter

  We know the WT will soon come out with a reminder that this is not a "tithe", so why don't we all refer to it as "the not a Tithe".
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  Why are some of you guys calling this new arrangement tithing?

  by neverendingjourney in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the risk of being shouted down, i thought i'd point out that "tithing" means giving 10 percent of your income to a church.

  it comes from the old english word teogotha meaning tenth.

  i've seen nothing that establishes tithing in the watchtower.. while i'm all in favor of pointing out the watchtower's lies, hypocrisies and faults, the language we use matters.

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  I think the WT has done "pledges" before and they have made monthly obligations before (KH Loans). I think that this pledging of a monthly OBLIGATION offends a lot of us simply because they want our promise and our obligation with not only nothing in return, no assurances or what have you of how its spent, but they have acquired from so many of us a DEEP DEEP distrust of their motivations, that it is an easy thing to jump on and (of course) loathe. They want families and congregations to PLEDGE each month a totally charitable donation-which becomes a bill, rather than a gift. A loan for ones own kingdom hall (as objectionable and revolting as that was) was at least tangilble. Congregations around the world have been learning that very specific buildings that they have donated for have been found to be unneeded, while the money was simply kept. No one trusts the Borg and they earned it.
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  Had an argument with my wife about tinkerbell :(

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  one of my co workers mother made my 4 year old a blanket with the disney character tinkerbell on it.

  as soon as i got it i knew trouble lay ahead.

  i wanted to reason with her before my daughter saw it so as not to cause a disruption, but it didn't work out that way.

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  She is nuts. When I was growing up, my biggest goal in life was to go to Disneyland and the same year my mom (finally) got baptised is the year that we went to Disneyland. I LOVED fairy tales--fairy godmothers, peter pan, wendy, tinkerbell. . . (but hey, I'm now an apostate-so I guess not a good example.)

  If you have in laws in the religion who took her(wife) to disney, ask them if they think that she was adversely affected or has since shown any signs of demon possession. Seriously! You need to discuss this in a rational way with people who PERHAPS have a memory of some aspect of the borg that wasn't always so insane. If she thinks Disney is ok, you need to plan a trip soon and give her a REALITY check. Or have her ask the elders if taking the kids to disneyland is ok(might want to ask a likely candidate for her question first yourself in case they have lost all their marbles, too).

  Keep track of all the bits of insanity that she shows in a notebook. Just in case you come up with the situation of Katewild whose husband is denying HER her child for doing normal things with him. You want custody if it all goes to crap. Not to be negative, but you are not in a normal situation and its not likely to improve soon by the sound of it.
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  Don't you hate it when they just comment from the paragraph?

  by toto555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  isn't that just annoying?

  can people even comment in their own words anymore?

  how bad is it where you're at?

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  I used some independent thinking when I was about 8 and got shut down for it. The thing is, I made more sense than any of them did. It was just a comment on something I had learned about some topic-not even challenging as I recall. I remember being mystified about what the issue was as my mom was trying to explain why I needed to stick to the scripted material (she had been counseled about me). She really didn't know what the problem was, so how could she explain it to me? I hadn't done or said anything wrong or bad or even challenging. And it was topical. I remember my mom telling me beforehand tht it was ok since it was related, etc. Oh, well. If they need to counsel an 8 year old for simply thinking outside their paragraphs, it's no wonder the adults are sticking to the scripts! They know all the rules.
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  Vicars to be vetted ..New laws on working with children...

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this article appeared on friday may 9, 2014 in the herald sun newspaper in victoria australia.. matt johnston is a state politics reporter.. quote :" all religous ministers will need working with children checks and a new system will be created for organisations to report alleged child abuse,under a $ 10 million state government reform.".

  premier denis napthine revealed the new measures,a further response to the state parliments`s child abuse inquiry report,betrayal of trust .. "many ordinary parish based ministers may not have required a wwc check.under this rule , every minister for religion who has any contact with children will require such a check ," he said.. opposition community services spokeswoman jenny mikakos called for the government to move quicker to "address the issues identified".

  my concern is, will the watchtower org./jehovahs witnesses /jw.org.

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  JWdaughter

  JWs say that anyone BAPTISED is an "ordained minister". Any JW at all could be called upon to speak with or work with children, whether JW or not, in the course of their "ministry", so would not every JW (at least any publishers) be required to get one? Iwould think the only ones off the hook would be those confined to a sick bed in a convalescent/elderly care home.
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  Do you have any body modifications?

  by make yourself in

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  2. friends

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  just wondering since leaving jws, has anyone went tattoo and piercing crazy, so to speak??

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  I have a tummy tuck. And one tattoo. Does that count? Cause my body was REALLY modified from that tummytuck:)
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  New Job

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was fortunate to be recommended for a sales position by a former colleague.

  the company phoned me and we set up an interview.

  i accepted their offer - it is nearly double what i earn at the moment.

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  I have enjoyed reading your posts for YEARS now, LouBelle-I am so happy for your (truly) good news! Enjoy the rewards of hard work:) It's about time. . .
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  Update about my Daughter In Law

  by troubled mind in

  1. social
  2. current

  a few yrs ago i posted about my daughter in law ........ http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/202817/1/happy-and-nervous-for-my-daughter-in-law#.u2uf91fli-0.

  she has been such an inspiration .

  she has studied hard and next week will be recieving her associates of science degree with honors !

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  JWdaughter

  Next to my own MIL, who is amazing and gave me the best husband ever, you are my favorite MIL.

  Congratulations to your lovely DIL. I wish her all the best. I see why you are so proud of her.
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  That does it ! I'm leaving ! ! !

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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  2. friends

  leaving the university with my degree!.

  exams are finished and it's just a matter of days before i walk.. i was certainly stressed about doing this.

  i'm older than my classmates and armageddon was sooooo close!

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  JWdaughter

  Congratulations, Billy! It has been a trip watching you through your journey-and guess what, you now have a NEW journey to begin! Best wishes in all your future endeavors.
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  I had a funny feeling he was a Witness... and now I need help.

  by noontide in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im in a bit of a bind and im not quite sure what (if anything) i can do about it.

  i was recently hired as a business consultant for a rather large company.

  the company that hired me mentioned that they are concerned about a certain department and the way its being run, as this department affects every other department in the company.

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  JWdaughter

  Shadow, I think the OP allowed himself to relate too much to the guy based on the common background and it likely just made him uncomfortable-wanting to help the guy cause he knows where he is coming from and why he is kind of weird and a bad fit. It distracted him from his (I assume) normal perspective and frame of reference since he knows the "whys".

  Everyone is right though. The performance review doesn't need toknow the whys-they need toknow the problem and how it has been addressed. The HR guy is not cut out for his job and should be re-assigned to something he is successful at (and it is clear that he must have been good at something toget that position) or should get some intensive training in leadership (which is a good idea for any new management w/o any good background or training in leadership).

  I wish the OP and the employee well. We ALL know the weird JW's. ...most of us used to BE them. We gotta root for these guys cause statistically speaking, they are likely to be out someday too and trying to make a new life without normal friends or the dubious support of their WT associates. They have a rough row to hoe!