1914 is embarrassing and while obsolete for all practical purposes, it is still a teaching oftheirs that many others hinge upon.It is stupid though-so how much better tohave someone else dothe thinking for them and present the "reason why we believe 1914 matters" talk without anyone having to turn on their brain cells. They can't abandon it yet, but no one really wants to do all their stupid maths and leaps of reasoning to explain the nonsense. So,they now have carefully scripted/or video'd nonsense so that none of the r&F or 'elder ones' have to do any heavy lifting nor will they botch the current rationale for the entire thing (lets face it, anyone over 40 has a lot of (WT) history of that date to get muddled into things and mess up whatever the current light is on the subject.)
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is the big show on 1914 at Service Meeting evidence of factions in the GB?
by Wasanelder Once insometimes the gb do end runs around each other, as when freddie franz didn't agree with the whole governing body concept and spoke against it at the gilead graduation.
could this video/demonstration at the service meeting tonight on why they believe in 1914 and how to explain it to others be an effort to bolster that belief because there is a challange coming against it by factions within?
i guess we can't really tell but i wouldn't put it past the boneheads running the society.
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This weeks service meeting! More craziness.....
by stuckinarut2 inso this weeks service meeting is so full of "crazy".
a whole 15 min part devoted to trying to indoctrinate everyone on how to "explain our beliefs on 1914".
then another 15 min part called "a tool to help us explain our beliefs about 1914".
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JWdaughter
All of the explanations will soon be on videos that they show in the halls because this stuff is too hard for non-professionals to repeat with a straight face. Seriously-their simple bible beliefs cannot be explained by the R&F JW adequately-because it is totally illogical and irrational and stupid. Anyone charged with coming up with an explanation for it would lose all faith in the teaching unless they were medicated or something.
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Man grant divorce from wife who refused sex
by usualusername ina court in dubai has granted a divorce to a man who says his wife is possessed by spirits and refuses to have sex with him, reports suggest.. after persistently denying him sex, the woman finally told her husband to discuss the issue with her parents, the gulf news daily reports, without naming the couple.. they told the man that his wife was, in fact, possessed by a jinn, and that several religious scholars had unsuccessfully tried to exorcise the spirit, the paper says.. upon hearing this, the husband lodged a divorce case with the dubai sharia court.
his lawyer told a hearing: "the woman and her family cheated my client.
they should have been honest and clear about the fact that the wife was possessed by a jinn.
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JWdaughter
He was granted a divorce because his wife refused sex. The "jinn" thing-that she has mental illness is also actually grounds to void a marriage in this country and many others. Among JWs from a post I read a few months ago, refusing a husband sex is not grounds for a 'scriptural' divorce.
That this made the news is only because the woman's excuse was brought up in court. There was never a marriage.
In such a situation, traditionally, the man would get back his marriage gift (in full or part, depending on circumstances) and they would simply part with not recriminations or big public to-do.
The man did not insist on or 'take'his marital rights. He respected her wishes. Except for giving her alimony:)
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A question for my friends in the USA about cowboys.
by punkofnice inas a kid growing up in the uk we used to play 'cowboys and indians' and watch high chaparal and bonanza along with other cowboy films.
later, in the 70's kung fu would be shown with caine going through the 'old west'.
we even had a chocolate bar that was marketed with a 'cowboy' theme...milky bar.. as far as i know the 'wild west' as shown on tvdidn't actually exist.. are there people that believe it did?.
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JWdaughter
I have seen the Alamo and the quote from Davy Crocket "You may all go to hell. I shall go to Texas".
The Alamo is a tiny building and it was part of the mission system here in Texas. In San Antonio there are several within a few miles of each other. We have hispanic cowboys now and supposedly the difference between a real cowboy and a fake is how shiny new his boots/truck is. There are still cowboys and Indians and ofttimes(in Texas, anyway) they are the same guys.
Being a cowboy is a JOB and there are still cows, still cowboys all over the world. The basic conflict in the 1800's was won by whites as they control most of the land now. The conflict was about land then (and where I am from, fishing rights, now) but it usually IS about land-everywhere in the world, isn't it? Just different native populations-results vary!
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Old Books
by Jeannette ini have about 30 old books that i have collected over the years and i don't know what to do with them.
i wouldn't mind getting a little money for them, after all, i did contribute and spend tons of money in car gas.
i have: you may survive armageddon into god's new world; what has religion done for mankind?
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JWdaughter
It's funny how much "food" they put out that has no value. It's like JWs have been eating fried pigskin and cotton candy all these years.
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December 1,2014 watchtower saying buying house is bad
by hoser inpage 15.
"take for example a christian couple in asia.
in their younger years, they admired those who could afford to own a house.
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JWdaughter
The article was about a couple that "in their younger years". They are not so young now, presumably. Maybe they can't work now. Too bad they didn't buy a home to live in and their kids are bugging them for money to help support their ministry as Pioneers or Bethelites (If they haven't shunned them for being DFd).
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"Jehovah's Witnesses do better after surgery without transfusion" - Article (July 3, 2012)
by Da.Furious inthis article from 2012 published by the birmingham news showed up on my facebook page.. what i would have liked to see in the statistics is the inclusion of total jws refusing blood transfusion and their survival rate not only the ones taht surviced, taking about only survivors is not like for like comparison in my opinion with patients who take blood transfusion and then dont survive.. .
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JWdaughter
I haven't looked at this particular referenced study, but if related to the one I DID look at, they really skewed the results by readying the JWs with nutritional and other medical preparation for some time before surgery to make sure that they were as well prepared as possible (all proped up with as much help as possible). It wasn't really a fair study as the patients who took blood did NOT get any special preparation beyond normal. EVERY single patient would have had significantly improved results had they had the same preparation. So, to me, it looks like a study that was commissioned by the borg. If this is the same one-there you go.
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I phones...I dont understand it?
by new hope and happiness inis it worth queing two weeks for a phone?
i mean why que two weeks for something we already have a phone?.
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JWdaughter
Eh, my samsung galaxy something works pretty darn good. I have a really cute pink case on it and really, if I can call and text then what else matters? I don't answer the phone (or care where it is) half the time. It is here for my convenience and no one elses and now that I have googlemaps mastered and all my numbers in there, why upgrade? You know they will break or get lost or stolen usually before they go totally obsolete.
I'm very content:) Aren't folks OVER the whole I-Phone thing yet?
I wouldn't stand in line to see Jesus arrive. As we have seen, even that is a wasteful use of expectation!
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December 1,2014 watchtower saying buying house is bad
by hoser inpage 15.
"take for example a christian couple in asia.
in their younger years, they admired those who could afford to own a house.
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JWdaughter
In many Asian countries, the dilemma may be between owning, renting and living with family. Rent in most asian countries I have been to is not really cheap. The only way many people have homes is that they live in large family homes with several groups or generations-which is likely what that couple resorted to rather than renting. Just helping out mom with utilities is a lot cheaper!
IF the "story" actually has any basis in fact.
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Why I hate Tuesdays
by kneehighmiah inall throughout my life tuesdays were my meeting nights.
well tuesdays and thursdays to be more precise, when we had book study but book study was at my house so it wasn't terrible.
anyways as a kid i hated coming home from school, doing homework and then going to the meetings.
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JWdaughter
Missed "Happy Days" and "The Waltons" We got home in time for "Three's Company" and "Benny Hill" though. I would have preferred the "wholesome" shows, but family programming was over on tv by time we got home. . .