Maybe jackson is going to lob some bombshells. God I would go to the kingdom hall in a dress to watch the congregations reaction. That's a looooong vacation from bethel! Isn't that how Franz started? A l.o.a.?
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Governing Body member is in Australia right now!
by Anonymous1 insorry i have to remain completely anonymous about this but you will see why.
i have first hand knowledge that geoffrey jackson of the governing body is staying with his parents in toowoomba, queensland for the next few weeks.
he has already been in australia for a couple of weeks.
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JW EXPERT WITNESS FLOORED BY COMMISSION OF INQUIRY LAWYER
by steve2 inmuch has already been written about dr monica applewhite, the expert witness hired by the jw organization.
her job was to provide "expert" testimony to the australian commission of inquiry into jehovsh's witnesses' policies and practices on child sexual abuse.
astonishingly, dr applewhite was unprepared for the inquiry lawyers' questions.
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JWdaughter
The WT was counting on the inquiry being filled with people who are as ill-educated and informed about their religion as Applewhite and other experts who testify for them. They were counting on this to be some po-dunk little inquiry that had no bearing in the real world and which would be blinded by their smoke and mirrors (and their own theory that other religions are worse, so theirs should be applauded)
Think how many judges and juries have been given the WT version over the years and buy into it without too many questions. Always with the pretty outside impression of nice people spreading the gospel. . . how could anyone blame them when bad people infiltrate? But that was the entire purpose of the inquiry with EVERY group(case study)-to find the real issues in this and correct them. They aren't picking on the WT, they are trying to get to the truth and I think they are smart cookies. This is not about the govt picking on them, the prosecutor picking on them. This is a REAL look at how things work. No one is getting into trouble. Yet:) There will be new laws as a result of this RC and it will be directed to all organizations-not just religious (so much for that all religions will be persecuted bit they like to holler about).
Applewhite is just the kind of beaurocratic silliness that helps them-the ones who look at written things and no NOTHING of the underlying structure and culture. The RC guy-(who I might form a fan club for) did his homework. He isn't busy trying to look like a super efficient fast talking Perry Mason. He is thoughtful, listening and respondiing with a thorough background in the entire topic. He is my new hero.
The WT and its minions have gotten away with so much for so long that they don't even bother trying anymore. This testimony is a testament to that.
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Do you feel vindicated by the exposure of the WT Society in Australia? It seems like a feeding frenzy on here! I love it. You?
by Wasanelder Once inare you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?
do you feel personally vindicated by it?
do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?
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JWdaughter
Sofialose, I am sure that some investigative reporter at the local Hispanic community paper would like something meaty. . .in the US, a lot of the publicized cases had Hispanic congregations or defendants involved. Put a bug in someone's ear. -
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Do you feel vindicated by the exposure of the WT Society in Australia? It seems like a feeding frenzy on here! I love it. You?
by Wasanelder Once inare you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?
do you feel personally vindicated by it?
do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?
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Vindicated but the scope and harm is very real and substantiated in a way that even personal experience didn't prepare me for. It's very sad to see grown men so delusional about the harm they've inflicted. -
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WT Lawyer trying to force His Honour to allow Miss Apple to garner more info showing how good WT is
by umbertoecho inhello to all who are watching.
his honour is being tested by wt lawyer in the last thirty minutes of day 4. the lawyer wants to bring in updates on the societies handling of child molestation cases.. his honour tells the lawyer that if he "lawyer" wants a contest between who is better than who....forget it.. his honour is slightly pissed off as wt lawyer just won't back down and insists that this evidence is very important and........"progressive" ( i think ) his honour then continues to tell nice wt jerk type lawyer, that if he thinks this will dispel all that happened to past victims..........think again.. i rough summary but fairly accurate people......god, that wt lawyer is a hateful lying, scheming son of a bitch........
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I like this commission. They dont care if your turd is more polished than the next guys-they still recognize a turd for what it is. -
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JW EXPERT WITNESS FLOORED BY COMMISSION OF INQUIRY LAWYER
by steve2 inmuch has already been written about dr monica applewhite, the expert witness hired by the jw organization.
her job was to provide "expert" testimony to the australian commission of inquiry into jehovsh's witnesses' policies and practices on child sexual abuse.
astonishingly, dr applewhite was unprepared for the inquiry lawyers' questions.
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I think when your best argument is that your shit is slightly less stinky than the next guy's shit when comparing certain volatile organic compounds, then you've already lost. -
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Is It Time to regroup?
by John Aquila inhow much do you want to bet that the organization has already started preparing articles for the watchtower magazines, convention talks, circuit overseers talks and letters to bodies of elders, to refute what is happening in australia?
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right now the most important thing for the wt to do is protect their image that they are gods visible organization.especially in the u.s. and latin american countries.
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JWdaughter
Did the Catholic church have written asshole policies or simply some asshole practices? Did the church stand stubbornly declaring victims as liars and excommunicating those who made claims or who spoke about it or who questioned it?
I'm not sure how much the Vatican had policy or how much was corrupt to the policy that they had or if there was a policy at all.
Saying this as what is happening in congregations across the world is in obedience to the WTBTS directives. 1006 /1006. They were very very obedient.
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In Shocking Testimony, Jehovah’s Witnesses Reveal They Feel No Need to Protect a Child From a Pedophile
by OrphanCrow inarticle from jwvictims.org:.
http://jwvictims.org/2015/07/30/in-shocking-testimony-jehovahs-witnesses-reveal-they-feel-no-need-to-protect-a-child-from-a-pedophile/.
in shocking testimony, jehovahs witnesses reveal they feel no need to protect a child from a pedophiletoday, many former jehovahs witnesses are clinging to every word said during the australian royal commissions inquiry into institutional responses to child sex abuse.
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For all the protests of ecclesiastical privilege, that s as me elder SId he would warn his own personal friends, after clarifying that no, he wasn't warning the friends of the abuser! His own personal buds. But not the police. Not the community. -
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What is the SIGNIFICANCE of the Astounding KORAN Manuscript discovery ?
by TerryWalstrom inbart ehrman's blog reveals some very interesting facts about the recent discovery of a manuscript of the koran.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oksxmo9moqk.
"in case anyone is missing the significance of that, here is a comparison.
the first time we have any two-page manuscript fragment of the new testament is from around the year 200 ce.
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I rather question the dating. However, the info at this time is a little unclear. If it's that old, cool.
I saw ancient pottery taken from a contemporaneous time that came from the area that had verses written on them. Written verses as we know them n ow go back to that time. Not that big a deal. Very old illuminated(?) Quran pages seem to be all over, so much so that they are framed as art and sold in souks. They fill museums all over the world.
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Nine Seconds that says it all. Have these elders any shame?
by Wasanelder Once inwhat can i add?
this says it all.. elder on stand is mute till prompted.. .
i guess i could encourage you to watch to the end and a guest commentary, lol..
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In the late 70s I participated in an investigation into my former neighbor regarding his abuses. It was not unknown or unheard of. When it happened to me in the early 70s, my mom clued in enough to forbid me f err on playing at that house, though she was not savvy enough to report it. In 1978 some had and the police had a respectable investigation into the matter. By late 80s this was not a new or unheard of concept in any part of western society.