Good job. There is a little confusion in the verbiage here that probably resulted from cutting/pasting "And if that’s you’re sincere believe I’ll respect that." but the letter is kind and respectful, while at the same time heavy as a hammer; Good on you!
JWdaughter
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Letter To My Mother
by pale.emperor inseeing as im being shunned by my family and friends.
i've decided to turn the tables and shun them back - but using the same methodology and reasoning they use on me.
i've written the following letter:.
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JW's opinions on bunker video
by neat blue dog inthe so called bunker video isn't just getting attention here but among jws as well.
i've heard a fair share of cracks, some half joking half serious about the prospect of the video playing out in real life .
but something else i've heard is that the video was meant to be figurative, an illustration representing the 'interior rooms' prophecy..
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JWdaughter
This is manipulative fear mongering, feeding their persecution complex (and expectations). I grew up in the 70's. They will push this and push this and then say-HEY, we never drew any conclusions. . . .it is just all the weak minded sheep who bought into that nonsense-er, who read too much into it.
ORRRR, it couild be some awake people in the org who thought that the WT needed a real "jump the shark" moment to get this show OFF THE AIR (Thank you Fonzie, you knew it had to end sometime, right?). I think that JWs will take this in a lot of ways, but a good deal of them will be coming here and registering in a few months when they get their nerve up to do so.
Ok, I hope a bunch of them will! And that there is no "Joanie Loves Chachi". That was just WRONG.
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Another Egyptian relic discovered at Hazor, northern Israel
by fulltimestudent init doesn't look significant, but it is - the jerusalem post reports:.
the finding – coupled with a sphinx fragment of the egyptian king mycerinus (who ruled egypt in the 25th century bce), discovered at the site by the research team three years ago – are the only monumental egyptian statues found so far in second millennium contexts in the entire levant.the discovery of these two statues in the same building currently being excavated by the research team indicates the special importance of the building, which was likely the administrative palace of the ruler of the city, as well as that of the entire city of hazor.shlomit bechar, a doctoral student at the institute of archaeology, who has been excavating at hazor for a decade, is the dig’s co-director, and oversees the main excavation area.during the course of nearly 30 years of excavations, fragments of 18 different egyptian statues – both royal and private – dedicated to egyptian kings and officials, including two sphinxes, were discovered at hazor.“most of these statues were found in layers dated to the late bronze age (15th-13th centuries bce), corresponding to the new kingdom in egypt,” said ben-tor.“this is the largest number of egyptian statues found so far in any site in the land of israel, although there is no indication that hazor was one of the egyptian strongholds in southern canaan, nor of the presence of an egyptian official at hazor during the late bronze age.”ben-tor added that most egyptian statues found at hazor date to egypt’s “middle kingdom” (19th-18th centuries bce), a time when hazor did not yet exist.“it thus seems that the statues were sent by an egyptian king in the ‘new kingdom’ as official gifts to the king of hazor, or as dedications to a local temple, regardless of their already being ‘antiques,’” he said.“this is not surprising, considering the special status of the king of hazor, who was the most important king in southern canaan at the time.
the extraordinary importance of hazor in the 15th-13th centuries bce is indicated also by the biblical reference to hazor as ‘the head of all those kingdoms’ (joshua 11:10).”all the statues at the site were found broken into pieces and scattered over a large area, he noted.“clear signs of mutilation indicate that most of them were deliberately and violently smashed, most probably in the course of the city’s final conquest and destruction sometime in the 13th century b.c.e,” said ben-tor.“the deliberate mutilation of statues of kings and dignitaries accompanying the conquest of towns is a well-known practice in ancient times (i samuel 5:1-4; isaiah 11:9), as well as in our time.”the hazor excavations, which began in the mid-1950s under the direction of the late professor yigael yadin, are carried out on behalf of hu.
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JWdaughter
I loved that part of Egypt. I wish I had studied up more beforehand!
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aaaaaaaaagh----already
by stan livedeath inso--ive bought a house--got the keys yesterday--took a car full of stuff over to it today--i'm upstairs--heard my wife talking to someone downstairs at the doorstep.............. yep--2 dubs--handing our invites to an assembly next month.
but its in a town called bournemouth ( uk )--which means an hours car journey--plus a very expensive ferry crossing.
( i live on an offshore island ).
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JWdaughter
Hoser, do the locals KNOW you are a dub? Do any of them associate with you or are you one of the faders that they are trying to lure back? Or do they just have no social lives so that they would know where you or any of the congregation lives?
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aaaaaaaaagh----already
by stan livedeath inso--ive bought a house--got the keys yesterday--took a car full of stuff over to it today--i'm upstairs--heard my wife talking to someone downstairs at the doorstep.............. yep--2 dubs--handing our invites to an assembly next month.
but its in a town called bournemouth ( uk )--which means an hours car journey--plus a very expensive ferry crossing.
( i live on an offshore island ).
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JWdaughter
I saw our first JW (that would speak to us, because we speak English in Houston!) since I moved here and they pushed an invite, refused conversation and rushed back to the safety of the culdesac. We have local congregations that we have never been invited to-but Mormons and some random Christians have invited us to theirs a few times in all the homes I have lived in for the last few years. No JW has said a word to us other than to ensure that we don't speak Spanish. Though they spoke English too. . . they just left because we aren't hispanic.
Do they not do public talks anymore? Why would anyone give up an entire day driving to Rosenburg Texas and back for even ONE assembly day when they know nothing about them? This last assembly would scare away anyone uninitiated into the insanity of the organization-the first morning! I saw the talks and videos. That stuff is NUTS.
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Imagine living in JW's Paradise.
by James Mixon inlets say you are able to go back in time to the first man( their belief adam) 7000 years.. now you are magically transporter back to adam time with the knowledge you have from.
todays world..would you make life a little easier for you and your family???
you may move.
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JWdaughter
My mom always talks about traveling and seeing "the sights". In this perfect temperate world, will the mountains have snow? Will the desert get hot? How is she getting to Mt. Kilamanjaro or whatever? No planes. . . rowboat? Sailing ship? Who is building the ship=and why should they have to while she is galivanting around the world?
She whined about the lack of washcloths and towels when she was in VENICE (for crying out loud, the woman finally got to Venice and she complains about that. Hey, mom, there is a bunch of sand surrounding the pyramids, and no shade. . . how you gonna get there? I rode a camel and TRUST ME, you don't want to ride a camel!
Mom imagines a garden and all these animals wandering about peacefully. That is wonderful until the panda and elephant poop start piling up in your garden. . . she lost her freaking mind when the neighbors dog pooped in her yard. It was a little bitty turd. . . barely noticed it from a teacup poodle or something.
She hates to cook. She doesn't garden. This isn't because she is decrepit or disabled-she just doesn't enjoy it. She watches theocratic stuff online. She hangs out with old JW ladies watching WT videos and youtube stuff. I'm thinking that it won't be something to do in the new system she envisions. Who is going to prepare her food, where is she getting it? Who will repair her microwave-cause that is pretty much her main food prep tool these days.?
The only JW in her family is her sister and her dead brother (who was DF'd but probably still believed the teachings) Her paradise is going to be kind of lonely, even if the memory of all her kids and grandkids is forgotten. However much she says she loves us, she speaks of us all as if we are beneath her contempt. She disapproves of all her grandkids and has explicitly stated that she doesn't like pretty much every descendant that she has. She loves us but doesn't "like" us. Fun paradise for her. Many of her dearest JW friends have left or dropped off the map (left, but shes not talking about it.)
I think her paradise will be filled with literal and metaphorical crap.
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Apostate Changes?
by Blind_Of_Lies inlong time no chat.
was there some sort of change recently in the guidelines cult hq lays out on how to handle inactive apostates?
my parents tried to start a study with me the week after they came back too.
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JWdaughter
Maybe they are trying to stealthily get access to your apostate insider information. They can finally tell how whacked and twisted that it truly is. I think the last assembly would make the die hards LESS accessible to a known apostate, not to soften up to them. EIther that or they LOOOOVE you so much that they can't bear to see you on the other side of the door not knowing the secret knock. It could be either thing, I guess, but organizational loyalty would not allow either reason.
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Things I remember growing up in the 70s
by The Rebel ini remember sitting on my daddy's lap and driving an imaginary car, i also remember sitting on my mummies lap on the front seat, without a seat belt whilst my dad drove a real car.
i remember we bought fish and chips from the chippy wrapped in yesterday's newspapers.
i remember bouncing up and down on my space hopper in the garden.
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JWdaughter
God, we're getting old.
Edited to say: DAMN IT, that is just ONE MORE THING THEY LIED ABOUT!!!
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Things I remember growing up in the 70s
by The Rebel ini remember sitting on my daddy's lap and driving an imaginary car, i also remember sitting on my mummies lap on the front seat, without a seat belt whilst my dad drove a real car.
i remember we bought fish and chips from the chippy wrapped in yesterday's newspapers.
i remember bouncing up and down on my space hopper in the garden.
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JWdaughter
Sorry about the book above. It was a long decade.
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Things I remember growing up in the 70s
by The Rebel ini remember sitting on my daddy's lap and driving an imaginary car, i also remember sitting on my mummies lap on the front seat, without a seat belt whilst my dad drove a real car.
i remember we bought fish and chips from the chippy wrapped in yesterday's newspapers.
i remember bouncing up and down on my space hopper in the garden.
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JWdaughter
I remember at Tomboy's the neighborhood store, seeing my first hippie. Told my mom what pretty hair the girl in front of us had and then HE turned around. It was glorious hair. If I had that nice of hair, I would have let it go down nearly to my waist, too! Long, wavy, blonde/sunstreaked. I still remember that guy:)
At the tail end, I remember (don't laugh) Disco. we did "the hustle" at a (JW girls) sleepover and got a scolding. I remember that big assembly that we took the bus to at the Kingdome. I am pretty sure I drove the bus driver batty putting on the string to make it stop all day. I didn't know that is what the string was for. I was like 8. First public bus rides that week. LOOONG ride into Seattle. At a later convention/assembly, we saw Michael Jackson and entourage. Celebrities get really sweet parking, btw.
I remember the end was near. The time I went street witnessing in Seattle. I remember working at the brand new assembly hall in Puyallup, putting out pies. . . It was later that the assemblies had frozen pudding. Back in those days, I think some people actually BROUGHT food, like homemade pies. Am I totally mis_remembering this? Or did we make them there?
I remember being afraid of the "violators will be prosecuted" signs for tresspassers. Remember how we were all going to be persecuted? I suspected that it was because we were always tresspassing. I was like 7 or 8-my vocabulary was still evolving and that word was POTENT for me in those days.
I remember counting up the generations, comparing the names in the bible to the years they lived, the dates we were given. I thought the problem was in my math skills. I was very gullible.
I remember getting reproved for wearing a t-shirt that said KZOK rocks--or something like that. I wouldn't have been except that the friend I went shopping with and who bought a matching one (hey, we were like 13) was the daughter or an elder. I truly think her mom is the one that started the issue, though. She was a self anointed prince? Anyway, she was too good to be a very friendly person. Self righteous folks are a PITB, another subject. She was just kind of cold.
I remember all the birthdays that went by after I was 6 when birthdays stopped. Christmas petered out at 8 but the joy of those things left by age 5 when we were guilted out about celebrating at all. You'd have to ask my mom about that disparity.
I remember being the stupid, annoying JW that couldn't just say thank you if someone offered me a holiday greeting. I had to do the diatribe. No wonder I am socially challenged to this day.
I remember worrying about needing blood. Wondering if my dad would get it because he wasn't a JW. Worry that he would (and die in a fiery armageddon) or that he wouldn't (and die when I was 9). We had accidents, he had appedicitis and peritonitis so this was a real worry in my early life. My brother stopped going to meetings when he just got so naughty that my mom gave up on him. He was ALWAYS falling down steep hills, getting run over by cars, riding his bike 50 miles to our campspot in holiday traffic (yeah, parents let him do that, crazy, huh?)
I remember being glad to miss meetings while worrying that the end would come while I stayed home and went camping or watched "Happy Days" and "Laverne and Shirley". I remember hating it when our sunday meetings were at night, because that cut out roller skating and I'd be less likely to get out of the meeting because we might be home from camping (or an outing) in time to go to the evening meeting.
I remember going to the library for every birthday party or holiday party. Back then, ALL of them were CELEBRATED with candy, cupcakes, happy birthday songs. . . needless to say, I made friends with the librarian and the one good thing from all that is that I love reading and books. So, there's that! I still have an inordinate fondness for the kind of icing on top of a birthday cake to this day. Just because I can eat it, I do-too much.
I grew up in the 70's and I remember the days leading up to '75. I remember the months before and the months after. I remember 1976 coming, and then we were celebrating the bi-centennial and I remember being SO mad. I think then that I knew we had been lied to, but I was like 9. What did I know? I remember when I was 11 writing a loooooong letter to my future self about what the world would be like in the year 2000. I cringe. I still believed something, obviously. I didn't imagine that I would be 30 something and having my 3rd child, married for 10 years and going to a Southern Baptist Church. That was NOT in my 1976 aspirations.
I remember the JC when I was assaulted. Yep. I remember the JC after I told my pioneer study conductor what I wondered about, what I knew and how I felt. I remember being DA'd when I wasn't even baptized. I didn't understand that then (or now)
I remember the Sonics won whatever the big prize for Basketball was. I watched, but I don't think they even belong to Seattle anymore. The Kingdome has been razed to the ground. The elder/anointed ones daughter was DF'd after marrying a navy man. I heard later that she re-instated. I hope she left again. My big crush of the time is now in 'landscaping' and a big shot in a little congregation in the sticks. His dad is the one elder that revealed his truth about 1975 expectations right around 1980. That really opened me up to learning more about the org than they wanted to admit. His admitting it to all of us resulted in his relocation to the above mentioned sticks where his son still lives.I am sure he suffered for that bit of honesty. If he is on this site, I can only say Thanks Bob! I left right after all that in 1981 or so? Most of my JW memories are as stuck in the 70s as polyester and El Camino's.
M.