Posts by JWdaughter

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What do you think would have happened to you if...

by LevelThePlayingField in

you found out about ttatt way back in the 70's or maybe the 80's (basically before the internet) and you thought that you were all alone in this knowledge?

what do you think would have happened to you?

no jehovahs-witness.com, no john cedars, no arc, no jwfacts.com and no crisis of conscience to fall back on.

JWdaughter

I came out of the org around the same time that Franz did. I learned of it after I left, but it turns out we were on similar paths at the time. Only he knew a lot more. I was 15. I was DA'd for reasons that still befuddle me as I was never baptised. My mom is the one that insisted because I said I didn't want to go anymore.

It has been the bane of my life because I am labeled apostate, simply because my mom says I "know the truth and rejected it." Whatever. There was no truth and that was what I discovered as I started "moving towards baptism". I didn't do it so there is that. Still, my mom and others are JWs. My mom is no longer a part of my life, but in spite of her wishes, I haven't forgotten that I ever HAD a mother (!)

Anyway, it is a hateful and ugly organization that works to create hateful and ugly people.

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Iconic 9/11 photo taken by bethelite

by pbrow in

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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man-shot-iconic-9-11-photo-doomed-fire-truck-article-1.2786008.

l118 crossing brooklyn bridge.

mid-article says he was a volly at jdub "book-making factory" .

JWdaughter

I noticed that other than the brief mention of his job, he didnt sound at all J-Dubbie. That could be the magic of editing. . .hope he's free.

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Are Parents Who Shun Their Children At Risk?

by Englishman in

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who looks after the welfare of ageing witness parents who have disfellowshipped children?

are these df'd children (actually, some of these df'd children are in their 60's) meant to ignore being ignored and then care physically for their non speaking parents?

also, can df'ing your own children lead to witness parents suffering illness or even death as a result?.

JWdaughter

There has been what I think is a final break with my mom in recent months, but became finally final this week.

Now my sister, who is sympathizing with my weeping in distress(!) mom, is shunning me too-without a conversation and knowing exactly what my mom does, generally. I think she is mostly hoping to shut up my mom by shutting me up. Alright, already. I've had it with that ugliness in any case. The last words she spoke to me in person were telling me that I was her enemy. Why? I refused to argue with her (ironically).

I hate the WTBTS, and I feel bad for my sister who is going to get stuck with dealing with my mom, cross country, for everything. Her and my mom, and my brother and my mom have never had a visit without the major drama of my mom stomping off in years. My mom will choose her religion or her dog (and her booze) over every familial relationship. Now my sis will get the full joy of mom. Have fun with that!

THe thing is, as I consider some of our family issues, I recognize that the WT is just one aspect of the poison she has spread to us. There are non-JW parts to the crazy of our family:( God I miss my dad:(

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How Do You Stretch Your Food Dollars?

by compound complex in

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dear budgetarian grocery-buyers,.

i am an artist though hardly a starving artist.

some of my patrons kindly feed me and i do have my well-stocked freezer.

JWdaughter

Wannaexit, today I made my first batch of tahini. Yum. I bought 4# of sesame from Amazon. Hummus heAven tomorrow!

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How Do You Stretch Your Food Dollars?

by compound complex in

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dear budgetarian grocery-buyers,.

i am an artist though hardly a starving artist.

some of my patrons kindly feed me and i do have my well-stocked freezer.

JWdaughter

If you are willing, making home made bread, either traditional american style loaves or flatbread like naan or pita or roti are opioid much cheaper. Flat breads can be made on stove and a batch of dough kept in fridge for fresh loaves every meal if desired. Ye as st can be bought much cheaper in bulk pound sizes rather than the criminal prices for individual packets.

Also, buy dry beans and cook yourself. Cheaper than cans, can keep in freezer and delicious.September-december has a lot of great deals-if you can stretch your budget the next few months, you can stock up everday staples.

Use foodbank. Make friends with produce guys at local markets. They . Might discard the not quite good enough or excess veg your way.

Learn how to prepare food for freezing so if you get a great windfall that you can take advantage without eating so many carrots that you turn orange. For example.

Watch brothers Green on youtube. Lots of creative ways to eat cheap and healthy. Super funny, too.

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Hopefully a Commonwealth Precedent - DF'ing Reviewable by a Court

by search in

well, it's been a very long road, so far, but, for the greater good.. appeal decision posted today.. http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abca/doc/2016/2016abca255/2016abca255.html?autocompletestr=highwood%20congr&autocompletepos=1.

JWdaughter

Wow, a guy is drunk and verbally abusive and gets DFd.

Legally, I am mystified about this-what can he hope to accomplish?

Naturally, I am sick that the family was ripped apart so viciously by this organizational processes-and I speak of the daughters DFing. The consequences of Mr. Walls DFing are the stuff of JWD legend. Nothing new. But the impact that DFing his daughter, and the trickle down effect just highlights the tragedy of this WT doctrine. That this CHILD was experiencing as an adolescent the consequences of her adult father should give people pause. The aspect of his DFing appeal that mentioned the lack of spiritual guidance is also telling.

Honestly, not knowing even what the court is figuring that can possibly be done regarding natural justice, I think this is a bit of a pyrric victory.But not entirely. The publicity will hopefully put some attention on the practice of DFing people, particularly children, and the chain reaction it's impact has on entire families. It is hate filled and harmful to the family in every way. This is proof.

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Is changing the "truth" / presenting "new light" really so bad?

by Zana in

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playing devil's advocate here.... what's the difference between the gb changing bible interpretations compared to parliaments all over the world changing laws?

although the us constitution (=bible) remains untouched, congress passes i don't know how many new laws every year.

and of course people are expected to follow them.

JWdaughter

The stillborn children issue is not new light. It was just backing off from the standard blowhard position that was stumbling huge amounts of distraught JWs. The GB realized that it was a teaching that was just them, blowing smoke out of their butts with no basis for it in scripture. The thing is, miscarriages and stillbirth happen to almost every family, and usually very close. Ones child or sibling. Almost everyone has this happen. Blood comes up more than transplants, but both those things changed because of politics or pressure, too. The kid in the early 70s who was told that getting a transfusion would result in him being abandoned. . .that kind of dogmatism made JWs look like monsters because it is monstrous. So they have modified the "understanding"

When people are devastated, having their hope cut off just because (probably) Rutherford pronounced it in his all knowing godlike way and there was no biblical reason, well it would be stupid to stubbornly persist when the whole reason they join that cult is for the HOPE they are promised to meet their loved ones. Rutherford didn't care. His own son is a footnote in his life. But a"we don't know" allows them to dare hope. This is something they stood to lose on by being dogmatic.

Anyone else find it interesting that all these "bible students" need permission to be allowed to believe what they understood and they needed to seek authorization from the GB to say it?

No thought control there!

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JW child first pediatric patient to receive acute normovolemic hemodilution - 1970

by OrphanCrow in

acute normovolemic hemodilution.

hemodilution simply refers to the process of diluting the blood with another substance.

there are various ways that this is done before, during and after the surgical process.

JWdaughter

It's interesting that the doctors were reluctant to provide care that would orphan the child, but the parents just stood their ground. Honestly, I am Bout Terry j's age and I don't doubt that his parents said that, or that at that time that such a stance was not encouraged by the org. Not in print, but here's betting you that the parents were the hero's in some assembly or several.

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JW child first pediatric patient to receive acute normovolemic hemodilution - 1970

by OrphanCrow in

acute normovolemic hemodilution.

hemodilution simply refers to the process of diluting the blood with another substance.

there are various ways that this is done before, during and after the surgical process.

JWdaughter

They threatened to not take their child home if he was given blood? I fault the state agency that didn't rescue the child from such abuse. Totally monstrous parents.

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We all "shun."

by stillin in

an old friend of mine committed suicide this week.

he was a great guy; pleasant to be around, a hard worker, kind.

everybody at work liked him.. then something changed.

JWdaughter

My mom's shunning behavior is not related to my lifestyle, but rather, to any though or word that exposes the ugliness of the wtbts to her. For example, sharing an article about the institutional response to child abuse in various religions and secular organizations, including hers. She threatened to cut me off unless I removed it from my Facebook. Because apparently if I did that, the world would never know! The dirty secrets would remain.

That is not the same as not hanging out with a friend who is doing things that are physically unpleasant to be around and who is frankly doing things that endangered himself and anyone unfortunate enough to be in his vicinity. I am so sorry your friend had the issues he did and that he disconnected himself from you, but you would have answered his call. JW leadership commend you for ignoring it.