Posts by JWdaughter

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SWEDEN: JWs Have Right to State Funding

by darkspilver in

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fyi - from sweden.

first an article from the swedish newspaper svenska dagbladet (via google translate).

jehovah's witnesses won against the government.

JWdaughter

I don't think mosques, churches, kingdom halls, temples of any persuasion or christian science reading rooms should get state funding. That they don't have corporate income taxes is bad enough. That they often get out local shares of improvements etc is bad enough. But giving ANY religious group money for ??? boggles me. I don't like it one little bit-cause my opinion matters so much:) I think the ONLY things they should get any support for are those things directly supporting the greater community-like food banks or actual services-and then just allow them as deductions, like everyone gets when they donate to a charity.

I know I have a very US centric idea of taxes and all this, I really don't know how it works in other places. I think there is way too much money going to places that are ridiculous, and that they would give any to the WTBTS-an organization of which we all know too much-is insane.

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Memphis, TN - Memphis, Light, Gas, & Water sued in federal court over allegations of religious discrimination, harassment & retaliation

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://www.fox13memphis.com/top-stories/mlgw-sued-for-religious-discrimination-harassment-retaliation/496547868.

news video included.

mlgw sued for religious discrimination, harassment & retaliation.

JWdaughter

Plenty here think he is out of his gourd for expecting anything in regards to accommodation. You may think that about everyone, or you may just assume every JW is out for a scam. I have read some claims and I agree, some are out for the$$$, BUT

when there are actually laws to protect people, they should be followed. If you don't like the laws, the answer isn't to denounce everyone who takes advantage of them (politicians excepted), but to change them. The thing is though, that those laws are to protect people from being retaliated against for just these reasons. Some hate. . women for thinking they can do whatever you can do, Jehovah's Witnesses for preaching at them, Blue collar workers who are getting uppity, blacks who are getting uppity, Muslims who dare to wear hijab, Men for being men, Bruce Jenner for calling himself Caitlin - or whatever. Just because folks are in authority doesn't mean they are mature.

Sometimes people have a "weak spot" whether it is a disability, being a minority, being ill or pregnant, or having a religion that a superior doesn't like-or just that someone doesn't LIKE them. Then, they are given roadblocks and expected to leap them.

Was he? I don't know. Clocking in late is just kind of . . . inexcusable to me. Memphis has plenty of Kingdom Halls. Jws abound. So, I don't have a LOT of sympathy for his not finding a job with timing that works. BUT, I don't know the facts. The EEOC has enough info to think that he deserves a fair hearing.

Some people do work the system, but some systems need work. Look at the WTBTS. They are a large enough organization to take care of things responsibly regarding children, to follow laws, to control their representatives and agents, but they screw that one up all the time. Maybe that big company in Memphis is back asswards and needs some educating. Or maybe he's just a jerk who's tired of working at all.

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My Son's wish granted from Make A Wish

by azor in

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we leave friday for his disney cruise wish.

he's also a big star wars fan, and they have a star wars day on one of the seafaring days.

to say we are all looking forward to this is an understatement.

JWdaughter

I'm so glad for you and especially for your son. I hope he remembers this until he is a very elderly man!

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My Son's wish granted from Make A Wish

by azor in

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we leave friday for his disney cruise wish.

he's also a big star wars fan, and they have a star wars day on one of the seafaring days.

to say we are all looking forward to this is an understatement.

JWdaughter

Wonderful! My first cruise was on a Disney cruise (before they were called that, they were the Big Red Boat(s).

My second cruise involved the biggest school of dolphins I ever saw that showed up in the middle of the ocean as a surprise for us. Wasn't planned (it couldn't be) and is one of the highlights of my storied life!

I hope this trip is truly magical for him. In every way! And I don't know why that org is granting him wishes, but I hope he is well and happy!

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Day 2 - Fessler vs. Watchtower – Thomas Jefferson Jr takes the stand in Jehovah’s Witness Child Abuse Trial

by darkspilver in

day two (wednesday 8 february 2017).

see also posts and threads regarding: pre-trial / day one / day one update / day five (last day, settlement).

jefferson: not totally.. zeff: okay.

JWdaughter

The WT has claimed in years past a clergy confidentiality while denying that they are clergy. While we are sorting THAT little contradiction out, they are also claiming that their silence is something about respecting the privacy of the confession. We know that this too is a contradiction, not to mention a hypocrisy as they actually have COMMITTEES to kick folks out, they announce them from the STAGE, write DETAILED REPORTS, call legal (They apparently have an entire department to deal with child abuse cases) to see how much they can get away with NOT reporting and do wild dances around the truth so they can avoid testifying when they are found out. They hire lawyers to try to justify it. They have been doing it for years and it is getting less and less successful with every passing case.

They have been trying to utilize the "privacy of the confessional" as if they are freaking CATHOLICS or something and guess what???? There is NOTHING in the Bible that says that such sin is private or should be hidden.

That their MORALS are convenient is pretty much typical of religionists like the WT, idiotic mullahs, insane preachers and dissolute priests/monks of all persuasions (my Buddhist friend has some stories, so this is not limited to the Judeo Christian tradition in any way). Men who want to control make up rules that suit their peccadillos, preferences and convenience.

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Day 2 - Fessler vs. Watchtower – Thomas Jefferson Jr takes the stand in Jehovah’s Witness Child Abuse Trial

by darkspilver in

day two (wednesday 8 february 2017).

see also posts and threads regarding: pre-trial / day one / day one update / day five (last day, settlement).

jefferson: not totally.. zeff: okay.

JWdaughter

In Fairness, folks do settle out of court when they are not guilty of anything-just to shut up the plaintiff, to keep their reputation, to stop the bleeding of the finances as they pay all the various court costs. BUT, in fairness, looking at the transcript, the WT was GONNA LOSE. Clearly, the monkeys are running the zoo and it has never shown so blatantly in a US court how foolishly and horrifically idiotic the WT stance is on all of this. They clearly have no defense as they keep trying to talk around the reality that yes indeed, the WTBTS and the CCJW is inextricably linked, connected and run together.

You don't have to be guilty to settle, but the WT is clearly in the wrong and all the pussyfooting around that they do is starting to wear out the patience of the justice system. They KNOW that they can and have lost and that courts do and will find them liable. They do NOT need another precedent setting case against them and THAT is clearly and fairly why they settled.

Good for the victim. Finally some justice and if money is the vehicle. . . vroom vroom.

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Back again to say hi! Life update after walking away from the cult.

by Darkknight757 in

i hope all is well.

my last post over a month ago was going to be the last considering i wanted to get away from all things jw but this place is much harder to ignore than previously thought.

life has taken some very interesting turns since late last year.

JWdaughter

I'm so happy for all your good news, new friends, new challenges, new job and skills and mostly your upcoming BABIES. What a lot of blessing! Good for you and your wife. I hope eventually good for the JW family that is brave enough to reach out to you like family rather than cult enforcers:) THAT is really good news, by the way and I hope that all comes to good things.

I appreciate the wonderful start to the week that you just provided to all of us.

I'm a twin and a parent. I've heard stories, I've seen pictures. Sleep now while the sleeping is good.

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I thought it was time to talk.....

by wozza in

i'd like to relate an experience i had yesterday with a couple of jw's "working" with a cart yesterday.. been coming to this site for many years and these days i don't feel i've got much to contribute ,but i was out yesterday doing some voluntary work for a friend who has gone on an overseas trip .travelling around my local seaside area doing the job at hand ,i came across a couple of jw's sitting in a shelter overlooking the beach and had their trolley propped against a large public rubbish bin ,it was actually hard to see ithe trolley from most angles - whatever happened to lifting the basket to show the light stuff ...oh well .the large carpark was pretty empty except for us ,we've had pretty wet weather here lately ,bad storms and here they were set up for a days witnessing rugged up with wind and spitting rain ,i sort of thought " well that's dedication " ....that was my first thought then i pulled myself together and then thought "if i wanted to get some time in and not have to work at it too hard this maybe the place to go if i was a jw still".. well i finished my pickup and looked over at the two and realised i'd read other's experiences about approaching the cart people and wondered if talking to them would be of any benefit as i had witnessed this area for many years and my stance against the wts for hiding molestation of children is well known ,i thought, and they avoid me like the plague.. they were'nt familiar to me so i went up to them and introduced myself and quickly let them know who i was and what i am doing now as regards jw's.

they were a married couple middle aged been in for a long time and could relate to changes in the org very well to pre 1975 when i had first contact.

they pretty much suggested i was blinded to the truth ,when challenged on the royal commission into sex abuse they pointed to a case where they believed a victim they supposedly knew of in the jws was a liar ,so that's their case for the org -unbelievable.

JWdaughter

Good for you. I've had two opportunities lately and one I kind of froze on and the next confirmed that I am getting pretty ambivalent about the entire thing. I think its a good sign, but I still regret that I didn't say something. Especially because I had a plan!!

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Again a knock at the door!

by JWdaughter in

nothing for years, and twice in two weeks i get jws at the door.

i didn't feel like talking to them and said i had plenty of bibles and read them.

i had a plan, but i was getting ready to leave the house and didn't want to get into it.

JWdaughter

NOTHING for years, and twice in two weeks I get JWs at the door. I didn't feel like talking to them and said I had plenty of bibles and read them. I had a plan, but I was getting ready to leave the house and didn't want to get into it. At this rate someone will be here next week if I decide to do the confrontation thing.

It was a father and daughter. NO bible. They both had ipads and notepads (like the leather bound kind). So weird.

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Childless elders need to piss off

by Steel in

anyone else think it's wrong to ask a women with small children to volunteer there time, ask if they like to come to a potential study etc etc?.

my wife just spent an entire day helping with a kingdom hall reno while i babysat.

i latter stepped out and saw half the elders having coffee because they had so many people show up, they were tripping over each other.. i also have no idea what tangible skill my wife offered or why it is important she needs to be there.. i just wish these men would man up and be men, instead of just wasting everyone's time on purpose.

JWdaughter

Ask your wife to refrain from volunteering for daylong projects as you enjoy your time together as a family. I'm sure that you can find a way to agree on appropriate time schemes. This really isn't about the elders, its between the two of you and just talk to HER. You can point out to her what you pointed out to us. Maybe she can make a tray of sandwiches or drop off some drinks for the elders to sit under their umbrellas and sip while others are working. It doesn't take a whole day commitment in any case. Two hours or other things are fair enough.