Those are not briefcases-they are sample cases-you know, salepeople carry them.
JWdaughter
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Remember those toolbox-like briefcases some of the brothers had?
by WingCommander ini bet some still carry them.
you all know what i'm talking about; there were at least 3 brothers in the congregation that had one.
thank god my father wasn't one of them.
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Witnesses coming to "visit" need help please (kinda long)
by snarf ini married into a witness family 5 years ago.
i am now divorced and out of that family.
when i got married my now ex husband was disfellowshipped at the time.
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JWdaughter
Congratulations on your baby! How exciting:)
Just be honest, tell them that you saw theological and doctrinal issues that you could not reconcile and that you did not feel that the org. showed very good christian ethics at the time of your troubles with your ex (not them, but the org. policy was whacked). Because while individual JWs can be awesome people, they are supporting a wicked and evil organization, and you don't have to apologise to the good folks for leaving a bad organization. They need to confront the org. themselves if it is running off good people that are fine and decent friends.
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Follow up from job this weekend
by troubled mind infollow-up on the jw wedding i photographed this ........... pretty much how i expected it would go .....the actual wedding party were very cool.
i had done half of their weddings or senior pictures myself , and they treated me with respect .
i ended up having my husbands cousin assist until he could get there at the ceremony.
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JWdaughter
You need to change your handle!I think you are "no longer troubled", but thats just my take on it. I am glad you had a calm and frank discussion with that JW and glad that he had the balls to talk to you. You never know the seeds you may sow by your graciousness and overall decency. You obviously have not grown horns or anything and they all saw that. Good on you! Shelly
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Would you die for your brother......
by loosie ina thought popped into my head today.
remember how inside the congregation we were taught that we should our love our brothers so much that we would die for them?.
now why were taught to trust and love our brothers and sisters so much mush that we would do that for them?.
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JWdaughter
I would risk my life to some degree for others in a humanitarian way, but I wouldn't just say 'kill me instead of him' unless it was someone I gave birth to or who gave birth to me. Others would be on a case by case basis. If I knew I was ill and had limited time, I would definitely do so for many people. But just giving it up for the slightly creepy neighbors? I don't think so. I'm no Jesus!
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He says use the rod?
by beautifulisfree inhas your child raising or discipline tatics changed since your out of the borg?
i always thought that i would use spanking as a discipline.
since supposedly the bible encourages it.
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JWdaughter
I have spanked, rarely, after they scare the stuffing out of me. There are more appropriate actions for most behavior. They all need different things to get their attention for discipline(teaching/learning).
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Kingdom News 37 sneek preview
by Midget-Sasquatch inwell i setup an account at reexaminer.org eager to make a contribution but find that uploading was disabled (for now anyway).. so here's this year's supposedly hard-hitting expose on "false religion" aka kingdumb news 37. i hope these links work for all of you.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5070/kn37p1wf7.jpg.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4599/kn37p2rn0.jpg.
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JWdaughter
Holocaust Politics, by John Roth. Look up on Amazon, just punch in the title and it comes right up.
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Kingdom News 37 sneek preview
by Midget-Sasquatch inwell i setup an account at reexaminer.org eager to make a contribution but find that uploading was disabled (for now anyway).. so here's this year's supposedly hard-hitting expose on "false religion" aka kingdumb news 37. i hope these links work for all of you.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5070/kn37p1wf7.jpg.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4599/kn37p2rn0.jpg.
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JWdaughter
THanks, that brochure really takes me back. Deja vu and all that!
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Didn't JW's do the "updating" thing with the Babylon book like the Rev book
by booker-t inmaybe some of the oldtimers might remember, but i seem to remember in the early 1980's that the wts "updated" the babylon the great book where many of the old light was thrown out.
i was a teenager but i remember studying the book again in the 80's and some jw's were upset by the changes.
if they do the same thing with the revelation grand climax book aren't they afraid that those oldtimers might get disgusted and leave the org?
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JWdaughter
In the late 70's or early 80s there was a book that had a lot of revisions in the Thurs. night bookstudy. I remember sitting in the hottest family room in history, just waiting till the (one) fan (20 people in the room) would turn my way again. AAAAHHHH. I don't remember anything except for the changes seemed kind of big, but at that time we were still waiting for Armageddon(it was a tad late) and anything we took as a 'clue' to the end was welcomed and "BIG" like the "BIG announcement" everyone is expecting soon (or did it already happen? I forget.) Shelly
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INSANE APOSTATES just feel the love
by DannyHaszard intop ranked jw news worldwide as i type
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=utf-8&q=jehovah%27s++witnesses click for google jw news ranking
hate campaign against jehovah's witnesses - why?
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JWdaughter
Hi, I was kind of late in the game, but I sent in this reply to Cayman news:
I would like to hear Jared Jeffries state what the actual lies and baseless accusations are. Dan Cameron said that the reason that Jehovah’s Witnesses(JW’s) don’t accept blood is not because it is what the Bible says, but rather what the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (WTBTS)teaches them that it says.
Factually-the WTBTS has changed its ‘blood stance’ numerous times over the last 50 years or so. The WT started out by saying-NO BLOOD, now they say, sure, take blood fractions, take this part of the blood and that part of the blood, but if you take THAT part of the blood, you will be disfellowshipped. There is now a ‘blood substitute’ approved by the Watchtower society that is made from animal blood. The WTBTS does not truly teach JWs to abstain from blood. They teach them to follow whatever they tell them to do, unquestioningly. So when the WTBTS changes its rules on blood, the average Jehovah’s Witnesses likewise change what THEY say and do about blood. The Bible says the same things today that it did 2000 years ago. So it is a fair point to bring up. JW’s do not get all their teachings from the Bible. They follow what the Watchtower organization says (currently) about the Bible.
People who are no longer Jehovah’s Witnesses and who are shunned are not all supporting sects, nor are they guilty of gross sins. Stating facts about an organization is certainly not anything to be ashamed of or to hide. Nor is that a sin, actually! The WT should have no fear of facts being told. And they should be specific in what lies are being told about them. I would say ‘more’ specific except that all I have ever seen is statements that they are lied about. No actual specific lies are addressed.
I would like to see Mr. Jeffries SHOW us the lies that are said about his beloved organization. It has lots of skeletons-no one needs to lie. The truth can be pretty ugly though.
While most JW’s don’t partipate in ‘unprofitable and futile conversations,’ Mr. Jeffries seems to be willing to do so. I would challenge him to write a letter that shares actual lies told about the WT without making personal attacks. This discussion should not be about Mr. Cameron or his position or how much he objects to the WTBTS. Calling a person insane does not further my opinion of Mr. Jeffries character, as he is relying on a known tactic of cults-attacking personalities, rather than addressing facts or ideas.
There are many more sites of ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses than there are of the Watchtower organization. The WTBTS, as shown by this summer’s conference resolution, discourages the average JW from looking further into the facts. The resolution states in part “We will resist with all our strength the spirit of the world manifested in such things. . . the curiosity or temptation that lures one into association with outsiders through internet chat rooms. Our resolve is to be no part of world as we ‘carry on worship that is clean from the standpoint of our God.’”
Many former Jehovah’s Witnesses have been shown FACTS that led them out of a destructive, family destroying organization through the internet, so I hope they keep reading. The WT discourages folks from truly researching the organization. I encourage anyone interested to read and study fully both sides, because I can say with confidence that anyone who does will likely leave it if they are in it and avoid it like the plague if they are not involved.
Shelly Jean
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Court Case in Germany
by GermanXJW inthe website of the german branch says there will be another announcement on march 24th, 2005 in the court case that has been lasting for more than a decade now in which they try get granted the status of a public body.
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i will keep you informed.
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JWdaughter
Does it strike anyone as kind of funny that the WTS is so hell bent on getting official recognition of their own status, as part of a state(government)while they forbade the Malawi JWs from getting an ID card? Because it might indicate that they had some allegience to the state(govt)? I know its simplistic, but isn't that what it comes down to?
Anyone else remember Malawi?
Shelly