The bishop(the DR.) knows everything about the religion. They aren't keeping him in the dark. There is nothing that mysterious about any of it (what happens in the temple). It isn't perfect or pristine-but in the end, it isn't the ugly religion and bitter leaving that the WT is.
JWdaughter
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My heart hurt today at all the wasted years in the ORG.
by purplesofa init was on the history of the morman religion.
one of the docs i work for is morman.
i always try to find something to chitchat with the docs with, so i asked him about his religion.
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My heart hurt today at all the wasted years in the ORG.
by purplesofa init was on the history of the morman religion.
one of the docs i work for is morman.
i always try to find something to chitchat with the docs with, so i asked him about his religion.
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JWdaughter
Funny, I was a Mormon (LDS) for a few years and left with NO bitterness. It too is considered a cult, and I guess it is one according to some definitions of it, but I left it with no bitterness, with friends (to this day)great memories and no trauma. I have said before-if I was to join a church for the social and the religious 'fruits'(results), I would be LDS. I am not in favor of religion right now for me, because I would be a hypocrite, and I don't like that feeling. I know many people stay in various religions for various reasons, but that is such a truly nice one that if I wasn't a little too honest, I could stand the rules and the time spent, and even the tithe to be a part of it. I like them to much to be insincere about my 'testimony', as I think most religion is just one guys version of how to worship their creator, and that one guy gets people to go along with him. If someone sincerely believes it, I'm not just going there to enjoy the fellowship and refreshments-that disrespects the true believers. All religion, on further reflection can have cult qualities. The problem with the JW one is it is deadly, it is cruel and it is ugly. It takes over ones life for the purpose of promoting a publishing house. That is not worth it. And it doesn't even do any good to mitigate any of its flaws. I recognize that many churches have flawed leaders, teachings, history-but the denial, defensiveness and hatefulness to those who point it out is hideous. The abuse is ugly, and they do NOTHING positive in the world that sets them apart as something good. Selling mags and books doesn't qualify. Sorry, got me on a rant today.
One correction, the 2x yearly conference is geared towards adults, they have youth conferences too that are a lot of fun. Their is also a womens conf. (they can go to the regular general conf too!) Probably a guys one, but I wasn't paying attention as a teenage girl.(to guys, yes, to their conferences-no)
They do actually believe in "every member a missionary" but they don't count time or get bonus points or anything. What your dr. did-not hiding his faith, being available for questions,welcoming you to learn more-is what they do. If it works-fine, but they don't dump people who are not receptive(your job is safe!)
I am now feeling very nostalgic. Conf is around Thanksgiving (and easter), I might sneak in the back:)
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Getting my groove back
by Stezza infate (or something) has meant that my last day of work is friday and that i will be able to go home for about 3 weeks.
home is melbourne, australia, i live in ireland at the moment.. when i left the organisation in around 1998, i pretty much disappeared, i was fortunate enough to have to travel for work and move back home (no point renting if you are never there and you are not home so much your mother annoys you), so i never got the difficult questions, hauled out the back etc, anyway in their minds i was a single girl desperate to get married they probably thought i found a boyfriend, i actually would of liked to have been a missionary) .
after i travelled for work i resigned and did what many antipodeans do - travel and and live overseas.
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JWdaughter
I am in awe of you. What great goals!
We ALL have moms! Even the non-JW moms are moms:) We could probably all write books. Can you IMAGINE the anthology of JW moms???:)
Be happy, that'll show them!!
Shelly
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Mom Died -- and I found out from an old friend!
by BrendaCloutier inok, i'm writing this thru tears as i just found out in the last 5 minutes.
my dad died in august, and they had been together just 1 or 2 weeks over 70 years married!
i didn't expect her to last without him, and visa versa.. i just tried to call my sister, and no answer there.
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JWdaughter
My love and condolences go out to you at this time for your losses. They have been a long time coming, but having those relationships so finalized so harshly and abruptly is brutal. That your sister blamed you is beyond cruel. She knows as well as anyone how much they pushed you away.
You are free, and she is still a captive. While missing your mom, I hope you can take comfort in your freedom from the ugliness of that religion. She never escaped and it seems like the rest of them are prisoners also.
Take care of yourself, and mourn in the way you need to.
Love,
Shelly
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going for a colonoscopy(sp) on friday
by orbison11 inyes, but i hear thursday will be the bad day, when i do the meds and have to sit 3 feet from the toilet for 24 hours,,oyy vay.
any here been thru this wonderful experience?.
orb.
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JWdaughter
Have your doctor put you under so much that you dont have any memory of the procedure. They have two levels of sedation and completeness of procedure here-take the higher levels. My FIL died from colon cancer when he had previously had polyps that were not followed up on. Several of his kids have had the procedure, and they will remove polyps right when they do it. It will remove the chance of those 'innocent' polyps from turning into cancer. My sis in law had some that were very borderline and really keeps up with it now. This is not anything to be casual about. My husband has had several removed. Its an unpleasant couple of days, but the best preventative medicine. Most don't have to do it every year, but in this family, it is done freq. I am due for my first one soon.(just turned 40) Good for you for getting it!
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Who saw Borat?
by roflcopter inborat: cultural learnings of america for make benefit glorious nation of kazakhstan.
best freakin movie of the year in my opinion.
i laughed almost the whole entire 1.5hrs of playtime.
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JWdaughter
Nobody warned me, so I am warning you-Might NOT want to take teenage daughter to see it. Very disgusting scene of two naked men wrestling for several minutes. My arm nearly fell asleep trying to keep her eyes covered. VERY funny movie, but have to take it in the humor in which it is given.
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..Not a Christmas Turkey Dinner!
by OUTLAW induring the christmas season,many jehovah`s witness`s will be having "not a christmas turkey dinner"..there will be turkey,mashed potatoes,gravey,vegetables,cranberrys..ect..but it won`t be a christmas dinner..my good jw mom will be at my inactive good jw wife and her boyfriends house,showing them how she dosen`t celebrate christmas,at the "not a christmas turkey dinner"..do you know anyone who has a "not a christmas turkey dinner",during the christmas holidays?...outlaw
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JWdaughter
We would have dessert on the holidays with the relatives-how weird is that? Couldn't have dinner though! We also got "not Christmas presents" usually around the 26th -Jan 1st. Depending on mom's mood and payday, I think. My mom once bought some snoopy xmas ornaments to use for 'winter' decoration. I don't remember her actually using them, but that was the justification. Looking back now, I wonder if she might have been wavering in her JW convictions?
Halloween was skate night(but that or bowling was a lot of sundays for the kids in the cong. anyhow) Valentines and Easter were summarily ignored. We spent a lot of 4th of July's with relatives. Or camping with relatives. The only 'Christmas' presents we got from relatives was the mandarin oranges from my gramma. Which we all adore to this day. It is funny, when I was a kid, we got the one box from gramma, my mom never bought others. We buy them as long as we can, now, and eat them like candy. Maybe they were too much $$$.
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College...(don't tell the elders)
by SB inhey all, i'm new to the board, and happy to have found it.
i'm going to college for the first time (i'm 25 yrs old).
does anyone have any advice on how to handle the challenge?
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JWdaughter
Enjoy, don't let it overwhelm you, just take one day at a time, enjoy the people-students, teachers and staff that you meet. Go to activities, get outside of your area of studies enough that you have an expansive world. Mostly enjoy. Learning is fun.
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Breaking it to my grandparents
by AirDuster inso i've been deciding for the past year or so whether or not i want to stay in this religion, and i have decided that i do not.
i plan on telling my grandparents (whom i live with) this very soon, possibly tomorrow.
of course i can't be just like "i don't want to be a jehovah's witness anymore", but rather "i don't believe in this anymore, and here are the reasons why".
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JWdaughter
Hi Airduster, SLOW DOWN. Please read the boards and find out what you are in for if you simply walk away. I am not talking about Armageddon (biblically) but hell on earth living with JWs that consider you to be apostate. You need to really know and understand what you are in for. PLEASE, please, please don't make your big announcement without a lot more information. Its here on the forum-ask questions, find out what you are in for. Information is your key.
Welcome, good luck, and its nice to meet you! Tell us more about you! We have quite a few young people and many here who are ex JWs or never JWs living with JW family(spouses, parents, etc).
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another Hollywood marriage ends
by Mulan injust read on msn.com that britney spears has filed for divorce in los angeles.
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JWdaughter
Glad she had a pre-nup. He drug her DOWN. Ok, this is me being shallow, but he is not attractive, has ugly and rude habits, is a bad dresser and acts like trailer trash. On the negative side, he is not a person I would ever say "oh, he seems like a nice boy". Better now than later. She can rescue her career(for what it is, anyway), but he was kind of hopeless from the get go. Probably should have stayed married to her HS friend if she just wanted a nice husband and family. Seemed like a nice kid. Anyhow I was surprised it lasted 2 whole years!