It is good that the Dr. has recourse here and is not going to be punished for doing his duty according to the law of the land. Sustaining life is a GOOD thing. It is interesting to see how other countries deal with the blood issue. It seems to take the pressure off of the family who is basically coerced into letting their family members die in service to the org. If the Dr. is supposed to do it for life threatening situations, then the family/individual can't be held resp. by the org. or elders. I can't believe that the JW man hauled off and hurt the dr. who was trying to save his wife!
JWdaughter
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Brazil: Transfusion of blood ends in aggression to doctor
by rosa inenglish translation from portuguese site:.
http://gazetaonline.globo.com/noticias/minutoaminuto/local/local_materia.php?cd_matia=238652&cd_site=843.
transfusion of blood ends in aggression to doctor .
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Would you want to know?
by lola28 inlets say there is chance you have an illness and you can take a few blood tests that will tell you if you do in fact have this illness, would you want to know ?
keep in mind that there is no treatment and nothing you can do to "make it better", what would you do?
would you like to know or would you rather not find out ?.
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I would want to know. I am a planner and hate to be blindsided.
Lola, hope all is well with you!
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Here's an idea....
by LemzaLady ingreetings, people who know nothing about jws.
i have a question.
are you blogging this site because you are bored or want to feel special, because it certainly cannot be for anything positive you might have to share with others.. i have been associated with jws for 30+ years.
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JWdaughter
Dear Ms. Lemza,
I wonder at what you are so angry about with this forum? I know that JWs believe that you will know they are the truth because of all the 'love'. Not to mention all the doctrines that they tell you "all reasonable people" should understand.
My thought is that a person who was actually hopeful is not someone who is depressed, drinks and eats too much. Those are all ways of supressing anger, rage and sadness-hopelessness. How much love do you get from the people you know in the org? How is the WT org. better than any other religion when they are (by your own admission) just as mucked up as the rest of them? If they don't have 'all' the truth, and the people are 'just humans' who make mistakes, how could that religion be any more the truth than catholocism or buddhism? Most of the doctrine is not so much biblical as it is rooted with bible ideas liberally mixed with the ideas, desires, and agendas of humans (men) who had their own reasons for hoping, wishing and dreaming that they were right. And they are just as deluded as the guys who wore hair shirts, fasted til near death and thought they were pleasing God because they regularly flagellated themselves with whips. Read what Terry had to say in his interesting story. (posted orig. by someone else from another site). That is how they get you.
My mom is a JW. She is angry at every slight that people who love her give. She is furious at how screwed up the world is and practically gloats at the idea of its destruction. When it is pointed out to her that her (JW) family is worthy of a Lifetime Movie with all of its drama, she tells me(Literally) how screwed up that part of her family would be if they DIDN'T have the truth. I guess that would have been worthy of a Ann Rule book or two. Actually, it already is, it just didn't get enough publicity to attract her attention. My angry mom doesn't eat to distraction, she drinks until it oozes out of her pores. Because she is so sad, mad, and depressed. That is not the sign of good spiritual or mental health-but no one can help her if she won't recognize it.
Are you mad because we speak the truth out loud? That we show the organization for what it really is? Or are you mad cause you think we are lying? If so, what about?
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My Life in Jehovah's Service - VERY INTERESTING STORY
by Dogpatch in" the overseer made it quite plain..
"if i can't say i have been advised not to serve in alternate service--why are you actually doing it?
i was there to serve jehovah; consequently i was doing jehovah's will.
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I so appreciated this story, Terry! Your early years sound like something I could share with my mom. I think your story might help her understand how the org. influenced her and stifled any real 'study' about religion. You put into words the things I have often thought. Thank you so much. You came a long way. You really paid your price for freedom though. I hope all is well for you.
Shelly
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Where does WT get their money for its operation?
by ukescott inas ex-mo, i know the mormon church makes millions of dollars each year by having its faithful members pay tithings and running quite a few businesses.
i am pretty sure wt as a corporate makes millions of dollars each year.
otherwise it wouldn't build thousands of kh's across the world i guess.
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LDS meeting places usually have several congregations, or 'wards' meeting there every sunday and for various church organizations during the week(boy scouts too). They have dances, dinners, conferences, libraries with a lot of resources. They have meeting rooms for men, women, young men and young women and children. They have adequate restrooms, kitchens, stages/recreation halls. They do have adequate parking, and offices for the bishops, and usually a paid janitor. They do tithe and they know what the obligation is. Many if not most members however, DON'T tithe. Even active members are not necessarily giving a full tithe. That is the goal, and I think, requirement if one is to do temple work. I don't think they are palaces, but they are definitely adequate for the needs of the wards and the people they serve. They are more along the lines of a traditional church structure, but I think more well used than some and less so than others. In smaller areas, some branches would be happy at something as simple as a kingdom hall. But some branches just don't have the means or support or population. Not sure the procedure for getting a building like a standard ward building. As the area I lived in grew, more buildings were built to support the growth. Most of the property has been held since before land prices got crazy.
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Do you remember giving talks?
by klydia ini'm trying to remember the process for giving a talk.
i remember getting a slip with a topic on it, but what else was on that slip?
did it tell you what scriptures you should cite, or what book the talk was based on?
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I remember one of the talks I gave-very vaguely about the actual talk, but I remember that there was something in the topic that hit me, unfortunately right as I was in the middle of the talk(!) as being nuts. And my mind wandered down a path. . . .well, eventually I looked up and realized that I was supposed to be saying something. . .and I don't remember how I finished the talk, but I remember having some serious questions about what we were 'teaching' about the earthquakes, wars. This was when I was 10 or 11, right after '75. I think I was wondering about the persecution. That subject always freaked me out anyway. I never figured on making it to my first decade before Armageddon would hit.
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Do you like SPAM? (The food, not the junk mail)
by free2beme ini know, it is america's most hated food.
people hear the name, and instantly they say, "that stuff is so sick!
" yet in the state of hawaii, it is the most popular food, bare none!
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I loathe Spam, but just so that you don't think I am thinking I am better than anyone here :) I do have to confess to adoring Velveeta Cheese and to eating chunky peanut butter right out of the jar, heaped on a big spoon. That I ever lost 120# is a miracle! THat I kept it off is a blessing.
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Most religious work?
by JWdaughter inhttp://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/november/37.32.html.
mark r. elliot, editor of east-west church and ministry report, estimates that between 1997 and 2003 the revocations of visas of foreign religious workers totaled 84. fifty-four of them were protestants, 15 muslims, 7 catholics, 3 buddhists, 3 mormons, and 2 jehovah's witnesses.
and these are just the known cases; most are not reported.
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http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/november/37.32.html
Mark R. Elliot, editor of East-West Church and Ministry Report, estimates that between 1997 and 2003 the revocations of visas of foreign religious workers totaled 84. Fifty-four of them were Protestants, 15 Muslims, 7 Catholics, 3 Buddhists, 3 Mormons, and 2 Jehovah's Witnesses. And these are just the known cases; most are not reported.
I think that the numbers are very telling.
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Weird dream...or maybe not so weird...
by Justice-One inlast night i had a really strange dream.
i was at the hall (that in itself was strange) and jim jones was there (funny thing...he looked just like powers boothe) getting the kool-aid ready.
there were "brothers" at the doors holding ak-47's, and all the doors were locked.
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Justice, that is so weird. About 2 weeks ago I had a similar dream. Down to the escape part and the late guy and apostate thing. No powers boothe or Jim jones though. Or guns(confined by peer pressure, I guess). Just kool aid. And my old friend Esther looking kind of confused and aghast, but going along with it.
How weird is that? Did your KH have ugly mustard yellow plastic molded chairs?
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How soon, is too soon, to remarry after your spouse dies.
by free2beme inhas done so for years, and because of this, i know this elder a little too.
not that we are close friends now, but when we were witnesses in the 1990's, we were friends with him and his wife.
they had three children, all fully grown now, and had been married about thirty years.
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Lawrence, your awful experience is probably why all the 'advice' I have ever seen about being widowed was that you should not make any drastic decisions or changes for at least one year. Which is probably how the 'tradition' of waiting at least a year began. Common sense. But rules are made to be broken, and some people can marry hastily to good people for the right reasons and make a wonderful life together. But waiting shouldn't be impossible, even if the relationship is the right thing.
I won't ever remarry if I am widowed. I would not even look at men and wonder. But I can see why people who have had a wonderful marriage to a great person(for them) would think of marriage as the best place to be and try to repeat their success.