Posts by JWdaughter

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I just had fun giving a talk!

by OneEyedJoe in

so, unfortunately, i'm still on the tms and had a talk tonight (in front of a co, no less) and the talk was on the subject of adultery.

in the source material there's reference to "spiritual adultery" i.e.

idolotry or when israel had alliances with pagan nations.

When I was about 11 I had one of the women's parts and was the JW in some scenario. The only thing I remember about it is that I started thinking that something we were saying was illogical and in considering the implications-totally zoned out. Sitting there in front of everyone.

I got it together and finished. Mom was pinching me during the service meeting every time I so much as shifted in the seat.

I wish I had been strategic enough to be subversive before I left, but I was only 15. Leaving was a big enough project at the time!

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Jehovahs Witness elder jailed for 12 years for multiple sexual offences against young girl

by AndersonsInfo in

http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/2014/11/29/david-dennis-gunnislakeharrowbarrow/.

david dennis gunnislake/harrowbarrow.

29 saturday nov 2014. posted by author in cornwall.

JWdaughter

Barbara, you are my hero, you know that? That poor little girl. I'm glad he was reported!

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Pat Condell on Britain's Cultural Crisis

by cofty in

a scandal is brewing in the uk.

for many years gangs of asian men engaged in rape and torture of young girls who were in the "so-called" care system.

it is believed there were around 1,400 victims in north west england, focussed on the town of rotherham.. if reports are to be believed, social workers, police and the cpc knew it was happening and everybody failed to act for one simple reason.

JWdaughter

If any man is abusing girls of any race or class, I hope they spend the rest of their days in prison getting some karma.

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy - take II

by Simon in

i had originally thought that making the rules clear about what was and wasn't going to be allowed when discussing the michael brown verdict that we'd be able to avoid some of the unpleasantness that surrounded the subsequent trayvon martin trial discussions.. michael brown verdict discussion policy.

i had hoped that once the evidence came out there would not be as many people promoting opinions that contradicted it.

unfortunately, that appears to have been naive of me.

JWdaughter

edited to say: Rather be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt:)

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Taking the Bible "too" literally

by Coded Logic in

i once heard it said that the only people who care about what the bible says are the village priest and the village atheist.

it seems to me most believers only care about "god's word" in very general terms and think it's all up to interpitation (religion a la carte ).. it the watchtower especially good at making agnostics and atheists because of their fundamentalism or is this true of many ex-religious groups?.

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JWdaughter

This isn't about me, Coded Logic. Its personal. Dogmatism and extreme views definitely make one question everything.

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A LETTER FROM MY MOTHER...since learning TTATT

by Blackfalcon98 in

so ive recently: joined the forum, read cofc, began reading combating cult mind control.....and today i gotta letter from my mother.

i thought i'd share it with others so that i can gain some hidden insight, and perhaps just to encourage someone else here who has relatives who are still mentally locked in.

dear blackfalcon98.

JWdaughter

Well, is this about more than the goatee? Does she know the direction you are going in other than your rebelliously growing a goatee? . She seems kind of reasonable for a JW mom (just sayin').

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How would you respond to this defense made on behalf of The Watchtower's Child Abuse lawsuits?

by adjusted knowledge in

details of the society's child abuse policies have been published in jehovah's witnesses' publications, although more specific guidelines are only made available to elders, or on request.

press releases issued by the watch tower society's office of public information confirm that if a person accused of molestation repeatedly denies the charges of his victim, and there is no other witness to the incident, "the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time", but would report to authorities if required by local laws.

our families jehovahs witnesses and child protection.

JWdaughter

If a new policy was instated, I would feel encouraged.

"If you know or have strong suspicions of child abuse by anyone towards any child, immediately report it to the proper authorities with as much urgency as possible. Afterwards, if the alleged abuser is a JW, then please come talk to the elders so that we can be sure to make ourselves aware of the proceedings and ensure the safety of the children in our congregation/organization"

Elders are not policemen or doctors. I think many are humble enough to recognize this and I think most would appreciate not being judge and jury of (essentially) a child victim or an adult who may be being accused for reasons that are not about abuse or who may be in fact guilty and is suffused with much bigger issues than they are prepared to deal with.

Will that ever happen? Doubtful.

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Taking the Bible "too" literally

by Coded Logic in

i once heard it said that the only people who care about what the bible says are the village priest and the village atheist.

it seems to me most believers only care about "god's word" in very general terms and think it's all up to interpitation (religion a la carte ).. it the watchtower especially good at making agnostics and atheists because of their fundamentalism or is this true of many ex-religious groups?.

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JWdaughter

If one critically examines the bible and has been told their whole life that it is literally all absolute truth, then it is insupportable. If one is allowed to use real reasoning skills and thought,then they can come to terms with some of the trickier issues in the Bible on the basis of principle.

I think that the WT makes it such an all or nothing issue, that when people reject the WT, they often can find nothing else that 'works' either. The bible has issues and if your whole FAITH system is wrapped up in its literally being truth and the whole word of God, then it is a stumbling block.

I struggled, but in spite of (a lot of ) things, I could not lose my faith in the creator. That never required any book for me, even though I tried to discmiss and ignore God. I left the WT young, maybe I didn't have it "inculcated" into me enough that there was no where else to go. My innate and instrinsic understanding is that there was always God. All the WT stuff was easy to reject.

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The tale of Angelo and Dan! Have you heard this one??

by DATA-DOG in

long story, short; angelo was bad, he went to prison.

dan was bad, he went to prison too.

dan became a dub and studied with angelo.

JWdaughter

It doesn't seem that unlikely or outrageous. A lot of people get religion (real conversions or otherwise) while in prison and there are JWs that do that kind of thing. Its smart for a prisoner as they will have a built in place to land when they get out and a bunch of people who are going to trust them and open up their lives to them. Its an old story, not just a JW thing.

OTOH, the WTBTS likes to have a consistent lie going around.

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New Monthly Report Suggestion!

by The Searcher in

just an idea for the weekly g.b.

conclave to consider - unless it's too christian for them to think about!.

paul wrote this to the "israel of god" - galatians 6:2 " go on carrying the burdens of one another, and in this way you will fulfill the law of the christ.".

JWdaughter

It's really a good idea. They could totally up their FS hours just by being NICE to the people that they already LIKE and approve of. Of course that might help retention in the cult-not a good goal, unless it helped turn the cult into (dare I say it) part of Christianity.

They will say that it is not something that they need to track. And for the WTBTS, it isn't. It isn't revenue producing for them, nor is it bringing anyone new in. But for JWs, it would be wonderful.

One think they COULD consider though is something that marketing/advertising folks know already. It is much cheaper to retain customers than to get new ones. If they could stem the tide with some old fashioned good deeds, you would likely see a numbers shift more dramatic than a new date for armageddon.