Posts by JWdaughter

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November Broadcast - truly evil

by iwasblind in

hi there i don't watch much of the propaganda on jw.org anymore but i did catch the november broadcast.. i think these guys are either evil or controlled by someone who is incredibly skilled at mind control.. firstly, they establish their authority by saying "everything" else is a lie - you can't trust media or anyone.

"there is no inspiration today.." but they somehow have the direct connection with god - yuck.. then, they proceed with that disgusting "shunning" drama - but now it is not called shunning, (around 24 mins) the mother said... "if we were to stand between levi and the discipline he needs we would in affect be blocking an expression of jehovah's love from reaching him...".

i am so angry at this, what a load.

JWdaughter

Cool how a JW could have more power than God and block his love.

Arrogant much?

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How does an elder become an elder ?

by Drwho in

i was never a jw , so have millions of questions .

please, how does an elder become an elder and how much trust does or should a jw put in an elder .?

simon.

JWdaughter

My observation is that it takes no effort at all in some congregations. Well, breathing helps.

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How does an elder become an elder ?

by Drwho in

i was never a jw , so have millions of questions .

please, how does an elder become an elder and how much trust does or should a jw put in an elder .?

simon.

JWdaughter

My aunt's husband was just a study in 2009. Not sure when he was baptised, but it was a point of pride that he was immediately appointed MS upon being baptised and is an elder now for over 3 years. He is a nice guy, but clueless. He seem to just be in to support my aunt who has had a totally dysfunctional life since childhood, and lifelong association and several DFings with the JWs. Her kids all rejected her and I am convinced that this particular dance with the org will soon be over. She's a pioneer after all her experiences, obviously needs some validation when the one kid in jail for sex abuse, the other a drug addict who refused to see her after a suicide attempt and the one stable one have cut off all ties for their mental health. She was reinstated sometime after 2009 and is now the prototypical droning self righteous JW. She doesn't sugarcoat her past, but kind of wears it as a badge of honor. I give her credit for wearing her crazy that boldly, but that those are two of the recently active members says something. To their credit, they are keeping it together, and are kind folks.

I guess my point is that they don't seem to be that picky about elders these days. Uncle is really just their for aunt and when she quits again or goes off the rails and is DFd, he will go with her. She is a true believer and will always go back to it if she survives. She drAnk the cool aid completely, but he is a warm body with(presumably) a penis.

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RANT: Isn't Cognitive Dissonance Amazing?

by Sorry in

this is piggybacking off my previous post (about my 'personal study').

while i haven't been a long time member, i'm sure if you have my posts you'll know that i'm disenchanted with the wt and am just grunting and bearing until i have a stable enough support system to break away.

however, lately i'm just getting extremely angry at nearly everything that's going on.

JWdaughter

I know why ex JWs sometimes go off the rails entirely. JWs are manipulative and false, and can get everyone buying into the abuse THEY received when a non believer speaks plainly. They are like an ex spouse who paints the picture so that former in laws reject you. Only your family is all looking at you sideways because your parent is so distraught by your "cruelty". I sometimes start to think that every happy family picture is a big fat lie. The funhouse mirror is now the only way they see the world so the lies and manipulation is done with a perverse sincerity in their eyes.

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Shunning & separation from family

by CJxfarmx in

i was raised in jw as a child.

my dad was a jw my mom was not, they are divorced now.

i was never baptized or anything but i stopped going once i had the choice at age 12. now i am 41 and my dad will not associate with me, my wife or my 3 kids.

JWdaughter

Your dad is a jerk. Had he stayed in any kind of contact with you, it likely would be to harangue you and assault your ears with his theocratic speeches. You haven't lost much in that man. I"m sorry you were orphaned.

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Sex & Divorce

by IMHO in

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friends

1. you can't have sex until your married.. 2. you're not married until you've gone through a legal ceremony.. 3. you get 'unscriptually' (although legally) divorced therefore not 'free' to remarry'.

4. can you still 'scriptually' have sex with your former spouse?.

JWdaughter

Atomant, are you a virgin or have you never used a condom? Because there is skin to skin contact even with a condom.

As to the WT, their opinion really doesn't matter. What are they going to do? DF you for having sex with the person that they consider you to still be scripturally married to (barring infidelity)?

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Is this another Trump backflip?

by fulltimestudent in

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friends

we've seen one backflip.

crooked hillary became a hard-working woman who deserves the nations praise (in his victory speech);.

now according to a uk newspaper:.

JWdaughter

He's a lot older than Hitler. Seriously, he is too old for this.

One bright thing, so far as the economy and foreign relations and the Supremes, with republicans in control of everything, they have no one to blame. Let's watch our govt and see what can or does happen when they have a blank slate with economy alone. I just hope for the best. I am poised to flinch, though, about what they might pull socially or about human rights.

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Millionaire JW Elder hypocrite?!

by Alostpuppydog in

so i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.

it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?

i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.

JWdaughter

Nothing wrong with having money or spending it. He might well be what's keeping your local congregation afloat and you know any excess is sent to the org. I don't account to others how I spend, do you? If he's an irresponsible or greedy person, cheating folks, then he's got issues. If he's forbidding others education or counseling against any material trappings, then he could be a hypocrite. That the WT seems to elevate rich men to positions, might definitely show a class system in the org beyond heavenly/earthly expectations.

How many Christians live in communes?

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How to accept and move on from JW's?

by Alostpuppydog in

just like the title says, how does ones self start the transition out of the jw's belief system, since i will never be allowed to go to a kingdom hall and believe a lot of what they teach.. i guess more importantly how have you guys here moved on that have had some exposure to the jw's?.

any advice is more than welcomed and i thank those that have thus far replied to me!!

!.

JWdaughter

As a believer, build your spiritual relationship exclusive of any other human. You go before God individually, not corporately, for judgement. If your dad is praying, thank him for the care, but point out you are seeking God alone as those people have cast you out physically and metaphorically. They aren't an option. Just state the fact with no recriminations. Then move on to better things.

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Oh, no. Not the election.........

by punkofnice in

just to set the scene; i loathe politicians.

i am revulsed by people like trump, clinton, merkel, may and uncle tom cobleigh an' all.. however, i have a question about something that someone said.

i've googled it but couldn't locate.. now, i know you folks will give me a specific answer.....and sorry to bring up that usa election.

JWdaughter

I just hope he has some self interest that would make him back off of nuking anyone. Most of those he would want to nuke have something he wants or needs or is close to an ally. Jerusalem is at the center of the middle east. North Africa is near Europe, the rest of Africa has animals he or his kids get off on shooting. . .Russia can fight back and will. China. . .iffier. Mexico is close and he's investing inThe wall. . . He can't get money out of a nuclear wasteland. Unfortunately, he seems to act, then think. Hope his handlers have some strong zip ties.