Posts by 5thGeneration

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A Fond Farewell

by 5thGeneration in

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i want to take this opportunity to say goodbye to all of the members on jwn and thank you for your support over the years.. circumstances have arisen that make it impossible for me to continue posting here.. i have truly appreciated your love and support during some hard times when i had no one else to talk to.. you showed compassion and a non-judgmental, christlike attitude for thoughts and feelings that could not be openly expressed to any of the brothers in the congregation for fear of reprisal.

for that, i am so grateful!.

thanks to the many of you that could relate to the pain and worthlessness that i have felt about myself for so many years because of my experiences and upbringing in the truth.

5thGeneration

I want to take this opportunity to say goodbye to all of the members on JWN and thank you for your support over the years.

Circumstances have arisen that make it impossible for me to continue posting here.

I have truly appreciated your love and support during some hard times when I had no one else to talk to.

You showed compassion and a non-judgmental, Christlike attitude for thoughts and feelings that could not be openly expressed to any of the Brothers in the congregation for fear of reprisal. For that, I am so grateful!

Thanks to the many of you that could relate to the pain and worthlessness that I have felt about myself for so many years because of my experiences and upbringing in the Truth. To you I say thank you and please stay strong yourselves.

You helped me through depression, sadness, loneliness and and have given me a lot of strength with your own experiences and advice. You have helped pull me through some pretty dark times.

To the members who understood my drinking problem, the causes of it, gave me a kick in the ass for screwing up, and pulled me through some rough times. I thank you especially.

I really have nowhere to go now to vent my frustrations about the Truth but I guess I'll figure something out.

Again, thanks to all for your unconditional love and support during the years for the things you can not openly discuss with JW friends or family.

With that I bid you Adieu.

Jehovah's Blessings,

5th

As Ecclesiastes 9:11 says, "time and unforeseen occurrence befall them all."

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SMOKING

by Quentin in

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due to health reasons (cost of a pack as well) i've gotta stop smoking....terry suggested smokless cigeretts.

what's a good way to stop?

i have managed to cut down to less than 10 a day, but have got to stop period.

5thGeneration

Swedish Snus might help you.

Not American Snus or pouches which are high in carcinogens.

Swedish Snus has 10x the nicotine but the carcinogens are 2.8 parts per mil for Ettan brand compared to as high as 127.9 parts per mil in American brands.

Lots of debate about them but 26% of Swedish men use it and they don't have any higher rate of mouth cancer than American men and the lowest rate of lung cancer in Europe.

Do some research on it.

http://www.northerner.com/articles/SwedishSnus-292/Swedish%20Snus%20Health%20Issues-2287/SHOP-0/

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As a Witness - What did you Notice in How Elders Got Appointed ?

by flipper in

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i found it amazing being raised in the witnesses to see exactly who got appointed sometimes as an elder.

it seemed that the criteria in my opinion had more to do with getting 10 hours a month in field service, answering at meetings, carrying microphones as a ministerial servant, or handling the magazine or literature counter !

in doing these " functions " and attending meetings on a regular basis - a man was thought to be considered " spiritually strong " and qualify to be an elder and serve on judicial committees judging people's personal problems.

5thGeneration

Best ass kisser to the "Good 'ol Boys Club" + field service report of around 20 hours plus = Elder.

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How many times (after high school) have you fallen in love?

by UnConfused in

and how far apart were they?.

thanks.

5thGeneration

Hundreds of times with the same wonderful woman.

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What Beliefs/ Practices of Jehovah's Witnesses do you Disagree With Most?

by flipper in

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most of us either when exiting the witnesses or after exiting have certain beliefs/practices that bothered us so much we could not suport this organization anymore.

what were your breaking points ?

here were a few of mine :.

5thGeneration

Non-doctrinally speaking... Birthdays.

Raising my 2 beautiful kids and delegitimizing them by not celebrating their lives as a family.

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What was it that first got you thinking that the Society was WRONG in how they INTERPRET the BIBLE?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

what was it that first got you thinking that the society was wrong in how they interpret the bible?.

for me personally, it was the way they always downgrade jesus to be an angel and are promoting the governing body in his place.. also when the society taught that jesus was abaddon/apollyon the fallen angel in revelation..

5thGeneration

Realizing that it is impossible and makes no sense anymore to me that the 144,000 is a literal number.

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How does GOVERNING BODY receive "NEW LIGHT"?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

just how does the governing body of jehovah's witnesses receive their "insight" or "understanding" of the bible, in order to publish this "spiritual food at the proper time" in their watchtower and awake magazines and all their books?.

let's find out -- from their own publications -- exactly how this happens:.

"spirits of the dead" brochure (1991), page 18:.

5thGeneration

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What is the GOVERNING BODY?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

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what is the governing body?.

we hear so much about "the governing body" from jehovah's witnesses and from watchtower publications.

just what is this governing body?.

5thGeneration

In this way they emphasize the personal decision that each Witness has made in accepting Bible teachings and also avoid giving the false impression that Witnesses are somehow bound to the dictates of some religious sect.

LOL

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Question on Case of Disfellowshipped then Committed Suicide

by ruruj in

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there was an occurrence years ago where a jw wrongdoer was disfellowshipped.

in a matter of days this poor victim committed suicide.. would there be any kind of accountability for the victim's suicide death?.

how frequent do these cases happen?.

5thGeneration

Good to see you Oompa.

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Question on Case of Disfellowshipped then Committed Suicide

by ruruj in

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there was an occurrence years ago where a jw wrongdoer was disfellowshipped.

in a matter of days this poor victim committed suicide.. would there be any kind of accountability for the victim's suicide death?.

how frequent do these cases happen?.

5thGeneration

I know of quite a few who simply left and committed suicide. Not sure any were DF'd though.

I did know 2 former elders extremely well who ended their lives.

I think by the DF stage and the closure it brings, the person may be a bit more stable than those that are severely depressed, faded or fading and carry such a heavy JW guilt along with their depression.

But obviously I'm no expert.

5th