Speaking of the PS3, I'm seeing some pret-ty high bids for them on ebay. The highest I saw went for $4,850.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=ps3
http://articles.news.aol.com/business/_a/crowds-and-gunfire-mark-playstation-3/20061117003409990001?ncid=nws00010000000001.
does anyone here remember the infamous cabbage patch doll stampede when someone got trampled to death in a store, and ensuing jw response?
oh how i remember them going on about it being a sign armageddon is coming because people are going crazy.
Speaking of the PS3, I'm seeing some pret-ty high bids for them on ebay. The highest I saw went for $4,850.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=ps3
how is the society getting around this....."those that saw all these things, will not pass away before the end comes.
"...seems to me, those that saw the events of 1914 are getting pretty long in the tooth.. .
Isn't that the "generation change"?
"far from having made 'all objects sacred' christianity, in the wake of the bible, has emptied the world of every sacred dimension.
the biblical and christian idea of a divine transcendence manifested in the creative act of god, the very idea of god the creator, disenchants the whole world, and the world remains only an object created by the voluntary will of the lord.
from such a perspective, the world is only a 'sign' of a presence, the 'other.
Now I'm starting to feel like a smartarse, and it doesn't sit easy
LOL! Well, now you're just trying to make me feel good.
I understand exactly what you're getting at. But in my experience, you're rather unique as a Christian, Ross. You are a mystic. (I think.) And Christian mystics are not exactly common. And most Christians are not likely to have read Hermetic texts and be familiar with some of the other realms of knowledge that you are, in order to get that slant on those scripture.
Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being;
This means something very different to me than it would to most mainstream Christians. I read an esoteric meaning. Because the Universe is Mental, we literally live, move and have our being within the Divine, as does everything. The sacred emerges through the material world rather than existing above it, removed from it. But you will be very hard pressed to convince me that the majority of the Christians think or feel this way. To them, there is the earth, a created thing, the realm of matter, and there is the spiritual realm, including heaven, towards which to attain. The material world is relegated to exist seemingly much closer to hell than to heaven.
"far from having made 'all objects sacred' christianity, in the wake of the bible, has emptied the world of every sacred dimension.
the biblical and christian idea of a divine transcendence manifested in the creative act of god, the very idea of god the creator, disenchants the whole world, and the world remains only an object created by the voluntary will of the lord.
from such a perspective, the world is only a 'sign' of a presence, the 'other.
XJW4EVR
You're assuming that "1. a" necessitates "1. b". It does not.
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Be careful RunningMan. You don't want CoS goons coming after you.
"far from having made 'all objects sacred' christianity, in the wake of the bible, has emptied the world of every sacred dimension.
the biblical and christian idea of a divine transcendence manifested in the creative act of god, the very idea of god the creator, disenchants the whole world, and the world remains only an object created by the voluntary will of the lord.
from such a perspective, the world is only a 'sign' of a presence, the 'other.
if Christians looked a little closer at the implications of an omni-present God, in whom we live and move and have our being.
Yes, but that would entail an experience of the divine outside the framework of the primary Christian holy book. As an example, an experience I have had of the Divine presence as being all things, not simply as having created it. But this is not typically a Christian notion and the Bible does not support it explicitly that I'm aware of.
"far from having made 'all objects sacred' christianity, in the wake of the bible, has emptied the world of every sacred dimension.
the biblical and christian idea of a divine transcendence manifested in the creative act of god, the very idea of god the creator, disenchants the whole world, and the world remains only an object created by the voluntary will of the lord.
from such a perspective, the world is only a 'sign' of a presence, the 'other.
LittleToe
XJW4EVR said
Yes, and this is consistent throughout Scripture. God never commands worship of nature, in fact he prohibits it. So again, I fail to see your point.
This sentiment is precisely exemplified by XJW4EVR's comment. Nature divested of any aspect of the divine.
"far from having made 'all objects sacred' christianity, in the wake of the bible, has emptied the world of every sacred dimension.
the biblical and christian idea of a divine transcendence manifested in the creative act of god, the very idea of god the creator, disenchants the whole world, and the world remains only an object created by the voluntary will of the lord.
from such a perspective, the world is only a 'sign' of a presence, the 'other.
Yes, and this is consistent throughout Scripture. God never commands worship of nature, in fact he prohibits it. So again, I fail to see your point.
My point is that divesting nature of any aspect of divinity might set the stage for the potential abuse of it. The point I'm trying to have considered, again, is that this premise is damaging.
I personally do not anthropomorphize nature as Gaia or anything else. But at least with that, there would seem to me that there would be much less likelihood of devastation of the earth.
"far from having made 'all objects sacred' christianity, in the wake of the bible, has emptied the world of every sacred dimension.
the biblical and christian idea of a divine transcendence manifested in the creative act of god, the very idea of god the creator, disenchants the whole world, and the world remains only an object created by the voluntary will of the lord.
from such a perspective, the world is only a 'sign' of a presence, the 'other.
I, and many Christians, have an issue with certain elements of the ecological movement, in that they tend deify the earth.
My point precisely. The sacred is removed from the material world.
"far from having made 'all objects sacred' christianity, in the wake of the bible, has emptied the world of every sacred dimension.
the biblical and christian idea of a divine transcendence manifested in the creative act of god, the very idea of god the creator, disenchants the whole world, and the world remains only an object created by the voluntary will of the lord.
from such a perspective, the world is only a 'sign' of a presence, the 'other.
Damn Narkissos! Invoking Godwin's Law so soon?! Thanks for your perspective! Benoist's bias is not lost on me.