Now, form an order queue boys!
Ahhh... gotta love foreign expressions that us Yanks don't get. (that's an "end stop" not a period, right?)
Does that mean "form a line"?
or will one of them invaribly end up being attracted to the other?
Now, form an order queue boys!
Ahhh... gotta love foreign expressions that us Yanks don't get. (that's an "end stop" not a period, right?)
Does that mean "form a line"?
or will one of them invaribly end up being attracted to the other?
Even though its true... you shouldn't stay like this... you're confusing the hell out of tsunami_rid3r...
?? If he's not, I am at least.
we generally hear negative stories about the jws but were there any who did an act of kindness towards you that really helped you out?
however I suspect she did it so that she could start a study with me.
I think that is one of the biggest problems. So much "good" is done for appearances sake only.
we generally hear negative stories about the jws but were there any who did an act of kindness towards you that really helped you out?
I see you have received a landfall of responses to this.
I'm sure it happens on occasion, but I had no such experiences of note.
However, my parents (still JW) let a poor sister rent a room from them for next to nothing. The 'sister' would moan and complain about her not knowing how she would be able to pay my dad the mere pittance he was asking for in the first place. He was very understanding.
She moved out into an apartment. And that is when he found out she had been stashing money away so she could buy all new furniture. And I mean all new. So all that time she was trying to weasel out of paying... $100 a month, all bills included, she was able to stash away over a grand.
My father is really a pretty good man. He has a good sense of honor and integrity. This hurt him a great deal. I guarantee he won't be as eager to help some poor brother or sister who claims to be in need again. Quite sad as if she had just been honest with him, it probably would have gone differently.
or will one of them invaribly end up being attracted to the other?
Very True...really can't ruin anything. Plus, if you do you won't loose anything. You could always make the friendship..... Screw Pals!
Brooke, you're just good people.
or will one of them invaribly end up being attracted to the other?
Have sex and still "just be friends" was my motto
I really think sometimes that that would be the best way to go, though my first comment was more tongue in cheek. One of my very best friends today is female, and I can tell a distinct positive difference in our friendship after we finally got around to the wild monkey sex.
Of course, some, if not most, women won't share this opinion about this, but I swear it's the best way. You know, like, after you've been friends for a while have a discussion. "Ok, Sally, we've been friends for a while, but the only way we're going to become any closer is if we get the sex thing out of the way. Then we're not concerned about being 'proper' on the off-chance we might hook up down the road. We will afterwards be able to be more completely honest with each other and thus closer friends." I know, I know, most women will brush it off as being just an attempt to get some, but when the girl declines and the guy says "no sweat" and remains friends, she might tend to reconsider.
I swear it works.
or will one of them invaribly end up being attracted to the other?
greendawn,
Like I said, get the sex out of the way up front!
yay me!
100 posts!
i know, small milestone, but still.. i'm still very grateful to have found this forum.
Aw puddin'! Thank you!
i am no longer a witness.
i've told all my worldly friends and my immediate family - my kids have told their friends.
i haven't been to a meeting in over a year (and have no desire to go to one) - but i'm not dad or dfd.
after my JW experience, I can't imagine ever joining another group or movement
I'm right there with ya.
I personally think it's very possible to be a good person without an "..or else!" hanging over your head. And Secular Humanism is just one example of people trying to advance humanity without the superstitions and scare tactics of religion.
I certainly believe it is possible as well. The problems I see are deeper however. How does one ultimately judge "good" or "bad"? If you consider this question in light of complex systems, the lines become very grey, indeed they may disappear completely. I recall that when I was a JW, my "good" was very different from what I would judge to be "good" today. In fact, much of what I thought "good" then, I now judge to be quite diabolical. How can I be sure that what I judge "good" now to not later fall into the same category?
Quite a dilemma that, unless one attempts to reach beyond conceptions of good and evil into an amorality which sounds a lot like the way we were taught Jehovah acts (and in fact most all gods act) without trying to twist the facts around to make the "bad" into the "good".
And, in re-reading, I hope all of that makes some semblance of sense.
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here is a picture of my daughter on prom night last month.
you have to adjust it i can't figure out how to put it in small
Richie take me to your Prom!....loloh my god...i just might.
You'd best sign up for that while the offer still stands!
daystar (of the prom dateless class)