Wontleave: the problem here was he was asking the question.
I could see the MS was becoming uncomfortable with the
question the elder was asking. It was strange.
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23JW came to my door, 30min. ago.Can not beleive what happen.
by jam ina elder and a ms.. ms: good morning sir we like to invite you too a very special talk,.
me: i use too walk with you people, i was a elder.
served in the missionary work and served where the need is.
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JW came to my door, 30min. ago.Can not beleive what happen.
by jam ina elder and a ms.. ms: good morning sir we like to invite you too a very special talk,.
me: i use too walk with you people, i was a elder.
served in the missionary work and served where the need is.
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A Elder and A MS.
MS: Good morning sir we like to invite you too A very special talk,
Me: I use too walk with you people, I was A elder
served in the missionary work and served where the need is
great. I left after 1975.
Elder: really, I was new in 1975 and I wonder why so
many left, it wasn,t clear to me at that time.
Today are you involve in any religious org.
Me: no, Iam A agnostic.
Elder: really, how are you mentally , your health.
Me: I have never felt better in my life. After I was
df I felt maybe something was liking in my faith,
so begain studying history of JW,s and that did
it for me.
Elder: you have never been back since you left?
Me: You seen the movie , the matrix, the pills
take the blue or red, I took the wrong pill, I know
the truth.
Elder:The light get brighter and things we do not
understand comes to light.
Me: Ok, what about the generation changes, do
you understand that,
Elder: as I said the light get brighter. In 1975 it
seem the friends was severing for A date.
Me: The friends were told to go out and preach
by the FADS, the end was near.
The phone ring
Elder: Can I come back and speak with you at
A later date?
Me: Sure, remerber I am DF and I do not beleive
in the JW teaching.
Elder: nice to meet you, you know where the
KH is, Be happy to see you there.
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Job suffering A ridiculous story.
by jam injob a man blameless and upright, one who feared god, and turn away from evil.
the fact that he is just and suffering breaks the logic relating god, evil,and the suffering of israel.
for ancient israel the logic of suffering then they must have sinned.
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Job A man blameless and upright, one who feared God, and turn away from evil. The fact that he is just and suffering breaks the logic relating God, evil,and the suffering of Israel. For ancient Israel the logic of suffering then they must have sinned. The second is that if someone repents of their sin then God will rescue and restore them. First of all Job was not A Israelite, why pick Job and not someone from his chosen people. Secondly, what is God trying to prove to Satan. God made A bet plan and simple. If you are A gambler when you place A bet, you are hoping you win, 50-50 chance. Foe God to place this wager with Satan, God wasn,t sure of the outcome. And thirdly, what,s with rewarding Job with more then he had before. The Bible speaks against riches.
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How have you been bless by Satan?
by jam insatan comes as a angel of light.. when i left the borg and things were going bad for me,.
my sister would tell me (jw) come back.
problem because you left jehovah and his organization.. ok, over the years my life have change drammatically.. a marriage that was doom from the start, a wife that.
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I may add I do not beleive in Satan.
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How have you been bless by Satan?
by jam insatan comes as a angel of light.. when i left the borg and things were going bad for me,.
my sister would tell me (jw) come back.
problem because you left jehovah and his organization.. ok, over the years my life have change drammatically.. a marriage that was doom from the start, a wife that.
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Satan comes as A angel of light.
When I left the borg and things were going bad for me,
my sister would tell me (JW) come back. You are having
problem because you left Jehovah and his organization.
OK, over the years my life have change drammatically.
A marriage that was doom from the start, A wife that
was selfish, cold and greedy, now with my lady who
in my opinion the most unselfish person I have known.
Thank you satan for this women. One thing I love about
her was her relationship with her kids and her kids friends,
they all call her mom. My ex, very little contact with her kids.
Financially, I am financially secured. We both retired at A
early age ( in mid-50,s).
Health, I do not have the panic attack that I once had, that
ruin my life. Again thanks satan for blessing me.
How have you been bless by satan?
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Mexican gang targets Blacks in L.A
by jam into demonstrate its loyalty to the notoriously violent.
mexican mafia "prison gang" an affilated latino street.
organization has worked to cleanse a souther calif.. city of black residents by terrorizing and intimidating.
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I am sure stories like this does not help on the
immigration problems we have in this country.
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Mexican gang targets Blacks in L.A
by jam into demonstrate its loyalty to the notoriously violent.
mexican mafia "prison gang" an affilated latino street.
organization has worked to cleanse a souther calif.. city of black residents by terrorizing and intimidating.
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To demonstrate its loyalty to the notoriously violent
Mexican Mafia "Prison Gang" an affilated latino street
organization has worked to cleanse A souther Calif.
city of black residents by terrorizing and intimidating
them. This is the kicker, more than 50 Latino gang
Bangers, many of them in the U.S. ILLEGALLY, have
been charged for targeting blacks by beating, robbing
and threatening them. Once a week I play a round
of golf in that city, no problem so far. I fought for
this country (Viet Nam) and I love this country, but
when I saw this, it made me sick to my stomach.
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Do you know of any other religious organization that ex members try to put an end to it?
by jam ini have heard ex members of the mormon faith speak about.
the injustice once they leave, but it,s not about the doctrine.
but the shunning.
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I guess the point Iam trying to make, mistreatment of
ex-members is common in cult like groups, but when
you challenge their doctrine, their foundation, that,s
A different story.
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Do you know of any other religious organization that ex members try to put an end to it?
by jam ini have heard ex members of the mormon faith speak about.
the injustice once they leave, but it,s not about the doctrine.
but the shunning.
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Gayle: I thought about the scientologists, but are they being vocal
for the mistreatment of ex-members or is it their theological
they are protesting?
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Do you know of any other religious organization that ex members try to put an end to it?
by jam ini have heard ex members of the mormon faith speak about.
the injustice once they leave, but it,s not about the doctrine.
but the shunning.
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I have heard ex members of the Mormon faith speak about
the injustice once they leave, but it,s not about the doctrine
but the shunning. Maybe because I was A JW and my world
as A ex Jw that,s all I see. Some have said we will never bring
down JW land. In the political world changes are taking place,
countries we thought would never change.
The point I am making in the pass for example, the Mormons
have made doctriine changes, I don,t recall A large number
of ex- members exposing it too none Mormons. In other
words are we the only group today that so adamant in
bring down the WT. Look at Catholicism, members
did not go out in the streets to warn others not join.