Posts by jam

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there are 2 classes of ex Jehovahs witnesses

by the max in

hi im part of a group of ex jh,s, we meet for drinks and dinner, go to football games.many of the guys do drugs,(i dont, i like sport) , most live very hedonistic lifestyles, lets leave it at that,(im happily married).

my point is, when i left, i was honest, and got df,d.

now im experiencing the same kind of shit that i experieced in the hall, the ex jw,s are just as judgemental, and stupid as when they were at the kingdom hall, for eg you were df,d we were not,it doesnt matter to them, that their doing coke and getting into group sex.

jam

The worst class of ex JW, the one taking an extended vacation

as Prodigal son mention. This type still believe it,s the truth.

He believe he is not good enough to be A JW and yet don,t

fit in with the world, so he,s in limbo. Those that have been

DF may feel they were not good enough, but in many cases

these ones move on, because they see the ugly side of the

borg.. So the ones who leave for A good time and not DF

continue thru life with low self-esteen. These are the ones

the WT speaks about, A self-ful-filling prophecy. They become

worst then the world.

Virgins in heaven, and non-virgins in heaven

by jam in

ok muslims faith , the 72 virgins.

no doubt women roll in.

heaven.

jam

Ok Muslims faith , the 72 virgins. No doubt women roll in

heaven. So A Muslims dies go to heaven, 72 virgins ,well

after he arrive they are not virgins anymore, so there

are non-virgins in heaven. And sex in heaven.

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If you could have dinner with any historical person...(top 3 choices)

by Ron1968 in

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if you could have dinner with any athlete, scientist, president, artist, or religious figure what would be your top 3 choices?.

ron

jam

Adolf Hitler; what,s up with you and the Jews, why all the hate.

Benito Mussolin: have you heard of the little man complex?

Joseph Stalin: You think you might have some unresolve issues

with your abusive alcoholic father, that,s the reason you rule

with A iron fist.

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So how many annointed are there and how many supposedly are left?

by stillstuckcruz in

maybe i just don't pay enough attention at meetings, which is a serious possibility.

of the supposed 144,000 thousand jw's that are supposed to go to heaven, how many have there been thus far?

what happens if their number surpasses that 144,000?.

jam

Well lets see, Maybe God gave adam and eve A free pass (first annointed)

Then we have Noah and has group, 20-100 maybe,(thier offspring)

Abraham and his group, A few hundred .

Joseph,s, his group maybe A thousand or more.

The numbers should jump with Moses, A few thousand.

Then we have the twelve tribes ( I know this is figuratively

but we should be able to get at least fifty thousand)

Then we come to Jesus and Paul day and time. So another

fifty thousand.

So from my calculation, there should maybe two or three left.

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How many followers Jesus had..

by jam in

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according to the bible the most dedicated followers of jesus.

could fit inside a large room ( by they standard of a large room).

on the day of pentecost.

jam

According to the Bible the most dedicated followers of Jesus

could fit inside A large room ( by they standard of A large room)

on the day of Pentecost. Maybe 20 the most. Just curious.

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Is there A different veiw among the elders Sisters Anoited vs Men

by jam in

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my sister drink the wine and bread.

to my surprise the.

elders did not take her seriously.

jam

I was speaking about Anoited sisters and Anoited brothers,

just to make it clear.

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Is there A different veiw among the elders Sisters Anoited vs Men

by jam in

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my sister drink the wine and bread.

to my surprise the.

elders did not take her seriously.

jam

My sister drink the wine and bread. To my surprise the

elders did not take her seriously. She beleive she was of

the anoited at A early age (30). I thought about why they did

not take her seriously. Most of elders were elders when

she got baptize, so in there eyes, three years as A JW

and you are of the Anoited.( this is JW thinking, I never

beleive she was any different then the next delusional JW).

As the years pass and new ones came into the borg., they

look up to her( the sisters) because she was of the anoited.

One thing the puzzle me about A women ( who is Anoited) , who is married with

kids who think she have A heavenly hope , what are your

saying to your husband and kids. Is the marraige that bad

that you do not wont to live on the same planet as your family.

OK this is JW world and thinking.

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What,s the biggest headache for the Gov. Body, College or Apostate???

by jam in

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jam

(Philadelphia;) I guess I am missing your point, but with both sons

they both believe the JW was the truth until they enter college.

Now they are both agnostic..I think college had A lot to do with

that.

(mindseye;) yes college was the final step for both.

(steve 2;) Apathy never thought of that.

(Y knot;) That would make Apoststes more of A threat,

"educated and easily versed in all things WTS.

(Moonguy;) Great first post, thirst for knowledge or

Curiosity is A danger for any cult.

(Pistoff;) Comparative religions study cause both son

to become Agnostic.

(Outlaw;) The internet is A pain not only for the WBT, but

any scam that is going around.

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What,s the biggest headache for the Gov. Body, College or Apostate???

by jam in

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jam

Philadelphia; I have to agree with Publishing. Critical thinking

skills kick in. In both my sons case, for years I have been

talking to them about the cult the JW,s.. With both sons

it was college that broke the JW hold. One son within two

years and the youngest one year.

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What,s the biggest headache for the Gov. Body, College or Apostate???

by jam in

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jam

A week ago I posted the topic, what,s the problem with my ex-wife.

The pressure on my son from her and other family members to come

back.

His response;

One of the most important things I am learning in college is to keep

an open mind. Keeping an open mind requires one to sometimes take a step

out of your comfort zone and see things from others perspective.

Once you see something thru someone else's eyes, it may change

your mind, or it might not. But the important thing is to always

look at the whole picture. With that being said, recently, history

class has sparked my interest in religion. We have been studying

the origins of Christianty, Judaism and Islam.. They all have many

similarities and difference. Each religion believed in one God no

matter what they call him. The main difference seems to be that

Christianity follow Jesus, Muslims follow Muhammad and the Jews

I believe follow Abraham. Which brings another question, "If God

really cared what religion people followed, shouldn't it be clear

which religion he wants us to follow?"

Of course every religion believes theirs is right, but each religion

pretty much shares the basic rules to be a decent human beings.

The most important one being "The Golden Rule".

Lately we have been discussing the JW,s religion..I have been

asking you A lot of question about how it got started because

I wanted to see how the JW organization branched off from

Christianty. With the dvd and literature you sent me, and a

little research of my own, I have found my answer..Having

grown up as a JW, I know how strongly you feel about it,

as I used to feel the same way. Being on the outside looking

in, changed my view of the organization dramatically. Some

things I like about it but they are far outweighed by the

things I don,t like and don,t agree on. I won,t go into

further detail because I don,t want you to think of me as

an "Apostate". I have faith in God but not in the JW

organization. I have heard of A lot of people who don,t

believe but will go thru the motions to keep their family

members happy, but I just can,t. It wouldn't be fair to

me and I can't live a lie.

I have found that the world is not as scary as I once

thought, especially if you surround yourself with good

friends and have Family who will Always be there for you

know matter what.. It,s pretty sad to me that the Bible

was written to bring harmony and peace. Yet religions

have broken up more families and started more wars

than anything else on the planet. I hope you're not

offended by my words and realize that I am not attacking

you or God. I don,t know how this letter will effect you,

but I hope you know that I love you and I am happy.

Love, your son.