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  I'll Take Your Literature if You Take Mine

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the september, 2013 okm, september, on page 3 appears "i'll take your literature if you take mine.".

  that is the proposition of some householders.

  since we do not exchange our bible study aids for religious literature that disseminates error, how might we answer tactfully?

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  What arrogance.
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  Millions now living will never die... *could* still be true...

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  playing devil's advocate here...

  researching online, i found that approximately 1% of the world's population is 90 years of age or older.

  this means that, come 2015, there will still be around 70 million people who fit the bill of "now living" in 1925 and still living.

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  There may be millions still living, but current Watchtower doctrine is that they will all die at Armageddon. 1% of the 7 million JWs is only 70,000 that are potentially still alive and will never die.
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  hi everybody..

  by americanboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi friends,can i introduce my self?

  i am luca from italy,31 years old,first off all be patience with my english....i'm working on it.... i write here cause i would like to know someone from usa e canada,my life project is to immigrate there..my collection of informations is just started,it's seems very difficult,but ,who know....maybe it could be possible :).

  so,anyone want to greet me and help me?

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  JWs organization don't insult nobody

  I have to disagree. The Watchtower is constantly discussing how billions of people will die at Armageddon, and how evil the world is.

  yes jesus is the way...and jWs is the only organization that recognizes this

  Was that a joke? There are billions of Christians in the world that recognise Jesus as the way. Many Christian religions have stricter morals than JWs, if that is the standard you are judging by. In fact, the Watchtower demotes the role of Jesus when compared to other religions.

  It seems from your comments that you have been raised as a JW, with very little knowledge about what other people think or believe. Religion is a product of where a person is born, so think about the logic of your belief that you happen to belong to the only true religion, simply as a fortune of where you were born. You would do well to study the origins of religion and of the Watchtower Society, and not through just the one sided presentations in the Watchtower, but from a variety of sources.
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  Reinstatement Hearing Secretly Recorded and on JWStruggle

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay people i have a new video that some of you may be interested in- i believe it is the only one of its kind online.

  three elders meet with a young female that knows ttatt and is trying to get back into the jws for family reasons.

  the audio also includes the three elders disagreeing and deliberating after she is dismissed from the room and then when they call her back in.

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  Elder 3 made interesting comments. It sounds like she was trying for reinstatement after only 3 months, and he was willing to reinstate her. He also said: Elder 3: "You know brothers get disfellowshipped from the Governing Body and..and things of that nature…um." He seemed quite realistic that the Holy Spirit was not guiding, and to err on the side of caution.
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  Getting ready for Winter... This guy does a beautiful job of splitting fire wood.

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  we have been searching the net trying to find the best, most successful way of splitting fire wood.. this guy puts the wood into a small tire, for safety, and it stays in one place.. just lois.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jdr_2zsr40 .

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  Brilliant. I shudder thinking about the near misses I had splitting firewood when I was a kid. I'ts a shame such a simple solution is not common knowledge.
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  hi everybody..

  by americanboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi friends,can i introduce my self?

  i am luca from italy,31 years old,first off all be patience with my english....i'm working on it.... i write here cause i would like to know someone from usa e canada,my life project is to immigrate there..my collection of informations is just started,it's seems very difficult,but ,who know....maybe it could be possible :).

  so,anyone want to greet me and help me?

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  "Where else would I go?" is a thought stopping question that in dicates over reliance on the Organization, encouraged by the Watchtower:

  " Where could we turn if we would leave God's organization today? There is nowhere else! (John 6:66-69)" w75 9/1 p. 531

  What Peter actually said to Jesus at John 6:68 was "Lord, whom shall we go away to?" The first step is to understand the truth about the Watchtower Society and the difference between following Jesus and following a self promoted organization.
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  Oh I thought JWs were just a "normal" religion

  by fresh prince of ohio in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have found that, since leaving jws, that few "wordly" people seem interested in hearing my escape story (although some certainly have shown great interest).

  when i've mentioned that i used to be a jw and that i left, the reaction i've gotten on more than one occasion is a "oh i thought they were just a normal religion", and not only that, it's like they just weren't at all even open to the idea that jws could be a really strange and cultish group.

  on these occasions, i felt a little lost for words trying to explain to people just how crazy jwism is, because there's so much crazy to tell about, where do you even start?.

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  I get that comment all the time. The conversation goes something like this:

  Me "I was raised in a cult"

  Them "Really! Which one?"

  Jehovah's Witnesses

  They are not a cult, are they?

  Well yes. They are fairly main stream, since there are 7 million on them, but they still exhibit all the qualities of a cult. The teachings are quite crazy. I was bought up being told I would never die. God will kill billions on people at Armageddon, but I was supposed to live forever. Can you imagine how difficult it was when I started to realise that the teachings were not true, and that I will die one day?

  Wow, thats crazy

  The worst thing about being a JW is that if you realise it is not the truth and you leave, you can be disfellowshipped. Then none of your friends or family are to ever speak to you again, except in an emergency. Almost 100,000 are disfellowshipped every year. That is particularly tough, since growing up you are not supposed to have friends that are not JWs; worldly people. So when I was disfellowshipped at the age of 35, I lost everyone. Virtually all my friends, and all my friends refused to have anything to do with me from that day forward.

  That is shocking. I never realised what a terrible religion it is. Damn, if they ever come to my door I will let them know what I think about them. Oh my God, tell me more.
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  Pioneers during the 1920s/1930s and earlier

  by A question in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  -what exactly was their standard of living?

  could they afford some nice things sometimes?.

  -how much did they socialize with other witnesses, either those serving in other areas or those in their assignment, outside of meetings and service?

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  Blondie will probably be able to find some good examples from yearbooks.

  Remember it was the depression around that time, so people in general had very low standards of living, and pioneers even more so. In Tasmania (Australia) the roads were still mostly unsealed. Some of the old timers that I knew from that era had nothing but the clothes on their backs and would bicycle aroung Tasmania preaching. They would trade magazines for basic food, such as eggs and bread, and a place to stay the night.

  There was an old couple in Parramatta (New South Wales) congregation, Bill Moore and his wife, that never had children. They were very poor, and had many stories about how they used to have an old car and did long pioneering trips. He would say how hard it was on them, but looked back fondly on it. I'm not sure at what age he settled down, but he did end up owning an old house and car by the time he retired.
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  Letter From My Mother: Moire insane Watchtower Rhetoric

  by confusedandalone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  again, i apologize to any who think i may be going overboard posting these letters, but i am hoping that i can help prepare others for the type of bombardment that they may face when dealing with mentally diseased witness parents who have no idea just how much control this cult has over them:.

  august 19, 2013. dear <my name removed> & <my wifes name removed>, .

  i had the privilege of attending the convention this weekend for a second time and i must say that i enjoyed it more than the first.

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  Sad.

  Were you counseled by someone <My Name Removed> because of a shortcoming and resented the counsel? Could you perhaps, have something in your home hindering Jehovah’s spirit? Or, could your thyroid have affected your reasoning?

  They can never accept that you just started thinking for yourself.
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  Crazy Thing Happened

  by allyouneedislove in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i met this jw guy around my age with a family like mine at local congregation (was visiting it with my family to see a friend of mine).. me and this jw hit it off real good.

  we have hung out a number of times.. by the way, he has a beard.. so we get to talking and i can tell that hes pretty awake to some strange things about the org.. this morning i get enough gall to ask him "do you know ttatt"?

  he responds "yes, and ill listen to it anytime".

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  jwfacts

  That's cool, a great question and I have not read about anyone else asking it. It is not common amongst JWs, so a quick way to work out who are questioning. As Oubliette said, it was dangerous, but if he got offended you could deflect by saying you saw the term on the internet and it seemed apostate, so wanted to know if he had heard the term.

  Have you asked about his beard?

  BTW, I got your email, thanks for that.