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  Do you feel vindicated by the exposure of the WT Society in Australia? It seems like a feeding frenzy on here! I love it. You?

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  are you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?

  do you feel personally vindicated by it?

  do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?

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  Nitty-Gritty But their rules are not man made (that's if you believe the Bible is not from man of course).

  That is a naive comment. Every religion says it is following the Bible, yet they all arrive at different standards, depending on how they interpret each passage. The two witness rule is a perfect example of ignorant men arrive at an illogical and harmful stance, despite saying it is a Bible and hence God's requirement. (Likewise with blood transfusions, disfellowshipping, higher education, etc.)

  Being spirit directed is one thing, but actually following the direction of the spirit is another.

  
  

  That is an evasive cop-out. JWs are expected to follow the rules as if from God. No mention is ever made that the Governing Body may not be following the direction of the spirit in making those rules.

  
  

  
  
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  Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!

  by possum in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  august.

  mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

  public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.

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  The RC must be shocked at how easy it has been to tie each of the elders in knots. It would be amusing if it was not for the gravity of the subject.
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  Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!

  by possum in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  august.

  mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

  public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.

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  Marvin Shilmer - coregation is good Aussie pronounciation.

  Village Idiot - One other child would be sufficient for the two witness rule and they would likely find another since pedophiles are serial offenders.

  Back then they needed two witnesses to the same act.
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  Royal Commission live streamingstarting soon!

  by possum in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  august.

  mon 3 (cont) fri 7 .

  public hearing: case study 29 into jehovah's witnesses, sydney.

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  I cannot believe how ignorant the elders are on their own teachings. The elder Rooy was stumped when questioned about why JWs don't stone adulterers since this is in Deuteronomy, along with the 2 witness rule. Rooy did not seem to understand what the point was. The correct Watchtower answer is that whilst the Mosaic law was done away by the Ransom sacrifice, at Matthew 18 Jesus reiterated the two witness rule.
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  Do you feel vindicated by the exposure of the WT Society in Australia? It seems like a feeding frenzy on here! I love it. You?

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  are you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?

  do you feel personally vindicated by it?

  do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?

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  Nitty-Gritty I fail to understand how you can stand up for the Watchtower when its policies have been shown to be grossly lacking. It should not be relevant if it was as good as other churches at the time, since the religion touts being spirit directed. It claims its stance is actively directed by the Bible, Jesus, and Jehovah's spirit. Yet suddenly JWs are justifying that they were on par with the world, as if that is good enough. Your strong defence is indication that internally you know the Governing Body are just men and their rules are man made, all of which is evidence that you are following just another religion.
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  Watershed moment???

  by sparrowdown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  will this rc turn out to be the beginnings of a watershed time in wbts history?.

  do you have any thoughts regarding this?.

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  It will be like the UN situation. Only some JWs will ever hear of it. Of those, most will dismiss it as lies, imperfection, the light gets brighter. And some will wake up. No watershed moment, but a step in the right direction for some.
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  Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  anyone know who this monty baker is?

  i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".

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  One point in the Watchtower favour that JWs no doubt will promote was that they released an Awake article that was informative about child abuse. It was very vague, as it was admitted that other religions had information prior to that regarding internal procedures, but the Awake was early for public information.

  The comment was made that it is not really relevant, as the Awake information did not change the fact that Watchtower procedure is badly flawed, but I see JWs jumping on this as a strawman argument.
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  Earthquakes in one place after another

  by jws in

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  2. friends

  i wonder what all of the fracking is doing to jws.

  it's been shown that fracking causes earthquakes.

  though the gas companies try to minimize this fact or say the earthquakes aren't significant, they are still happening.

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  There are over 100,000 earthquakes a year that humans can detect, 500,000 that instruments detect. Fracking may be increasing that number, but it is not affecting JWs. A major earthquake that takes lives is what they concentrate on, and Fracking does not seem to cause an earthquake of that magnitude.
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  June 2015 Watchtower equating Apostates with The Antichrist!

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  shit!

  it finally happened.. years ago i speculated on this happening but can't find the posts.

  anyway, this is a tactically aggressive move by wt.

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  The article spreads the net very wide. They still label most Christian religions as part of the Antichrist for teaching the trinity, but do also include the word apostates, as noted by OP.
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  607 B.C. controversy

  by FusionTheism in

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  2. beliefs

  i'm not sure the whole 607 b.c.e.

  controversy is really that major of a deal.. even if the society admits it and changes it, that's only a difference of 20-21 years, so the governing body could just shift 1914 to 1934-1935 and say that world war ii and hitler was the beginning of the signs.. a much bigger issue is why they even say daniel's tree prophecy has an antitypical fulfillment, especially after their new light on types and antitypes..

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  A much bigger issue is why they even say Daniel's Tree Prophecy has an Antitypical Fulfillment, especially after their New Light on Types and Antitypes.
  

  Good point. The other Daniel accounts do not have an antitypical fulfillment, so the onus of proof starts with showing that this particular one does. With their latest discussion about types and antitypes, I wonder how this will all pan out.