Posts by jwfacts

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EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian

by Perry in

a lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.

is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?

what exactly makes someone a christian?

jwfacts

There are 30,000 Christian sects, with a wide range of interpretations, so to claim Christianity has to do with following your particular doctrinal understanding is illogical.

Of course JWs are Christian.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/christian

Definition of CHRISTIAN for Kids

1

: of or relating to Jesus Christ or the religion based on his teachings

2

: of or relating to people who follow the teachings of Jesus Christ <a Christian nation>

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/christian

someone who believes in and follows the teachings of JesusChrist

JWs believe in Jesus and follow their interpretation of his teachings, just as you do, and people of any of the 30,000 Christian sects do. They think your interpretation is flawed just as you think their interpretation is flawed.

Funny that you say they are not Christian, they say you are not a true Christian, but you are both are both trying to achieve the same thing.

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Question: What would it take to get the BORG'S tax exempt status REVOKED?

by Black Man in

jw
friends

i've always wondered about this.

i've always felt the main reason the borg made publishers do time slips/field service reports was to show that they are doing a community service to justify their tax exempt status.

we all know about their money grabs with the kh build scams, their selling off millions of dollars in real estate, etc.

jwfacts

I think it needs to come when all religion have tax exempt status revoked.

Tax is only on the profits that an organisation makes, not their revenue. If a religion is making large profits, it is an indication it is hoarding its donations, therefore I can see no reason it should not be taxed. Any legitimate group that is putting money back into the community through charitable works does not need to be concerned with paying excessive taxes.

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Major events that Bible did not foretell!

by iconoclastic in

jws feel that their strength lies in the power of bible to foretell.

however, an impartial analysis would show that bibles prophecies are too general, and yet some of the major developments in the world scene were not figured in its propheciesespecially those that are very much needed for what it calls last days.

to mention a few:.

jwfacts

Yes the Bible only mentions things common in local area and were already common, such as famine and war.

It fails completely to discuss the dangers happening in other parts of the world, such as cyclones and floods. Or future events such as nuclear or chemical warfare, terrorism, and global warming.

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For me the worst thing is not having a helper anymore

by John Aquila in

one of the things that gave me confidence in life was that i believed i had the almighty creator/god watching over me, directing me, guiding my every step, protecting me from harm, and answering my prayers.

i now know that is not the case anymore.

i finally stopped praying.

jwfacts

For me it was a blessing to be freed from such superstitious belief. God's apparent randomness at addressing prayers always confused me. Once I realised the outcomes of my life where the product of hard work and circumstance I could become more focussed on success.

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What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)

by John Aquila in

let's pretend this might happen.

im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).

if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.

jwfacts

I had discussions with my family before I was d/f and it was not logic that held them in, but rather their own insecurities.

I would not bother talking to them about it. They would be annoyed that I was gloating at them, but will have found a way to reconcile the changes.

It won't make a difference to most, unless there are some other emotional or doctrinal issues already disturbing them.

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Faulty Reasoning to Promote God's "Name"

by Dissonant15 in

as i am newly awoken, i am daily having epiphanies & revelations now.

i've been casually wondering to myself since the propagandist broadcast about the name "jehovah" if it would be more proper to call him "yahweh" to myself.

well tonight the answer suddenly came to me: it doesn't matter.

jwfacts

Spot on. I would never have called my father by his first name, that would have been very disrespectful. Neither is Jesus ever recorded as using God's name, but rather terms like father.

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New Geoffrey Jackson statement on Royal Commission's webpage!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Viva la Vida in

jw
friends

check his signature... it looks kind of childish/feminine (at least in my part of the world)... is this a grown man's signature for you?.

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=9d0ca1dc-1bd6-41c4-9cfc-b1d616d1cc65&type=exhibit&filename=stat.0670.001.0001&fileextension=pdf.

jwfacts

Conveniently omitting the OT passages that mention female judges like Deborah...

Very important point.

Also with the discussion on Deuteronomy 22, typical Watchtower reasoning. This reasoning follows normal Watchtower process of introducing doctrine with a "clearly, no doubt, we will assume, a true christian would realise ...." They basically say let us assume the two witness rule was to be followed, such as he confessed.

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Hot New Ford GT, and the GB!!

by DwainBowman in

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friends

ok, i was reading a story about fords new ford gt, one hot extreme muscle car.

the story tells about how a car like this normally takes 6 or more years from, first scratches on paper to finished project.

their small handful of specialist, pulled it off in 2. and right until it was finished, no one out side of the small circle of people (about 25 people ) really knew anything, except something special was in the works!.

jwfacts

I remember being in awe of quick build kingdom halls. Then I read about a sheik building a huge building with thousands of workers working 24 hours a day, and realised anyone with enough determination can pull of monumental tasks.

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Do you find it hard to be around active JW's now?

by EdenOne in

i do - actually, it's become close to unbearable.. and herein lies the paradox: i tried to fade in the illusion that i might keep contact with family and friends still "in".

was it worth it?

because not only most of them shun me anyways, but i find it almost unbearable to be around them, especially when the cult chit chat kicks in: every cute animal video clip triggers endless comments about glimpses of the future paradise and how "god did it"; those greasy praises to the organization and the governing body; the dumb awe about every jw broadcast and those cheesy music videos; the endless drivel against other religions when one knows perfectly well that we're no better than them; the endless flow of "experiences" of field service or spectacular conversions into "the truth"; the relentless congregation gossip; and so on .... i ask myself: is this why i am fading for ...?

jwfacts

Great observation. The few times I have been around a JW I realise I cannot bear to listen to the tripe that they discuss. The other issue is that it is pointless having a meaningful discussion, as they do not have opinions, but simply recite what they have been told to believe about things.

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WE NEED MORE FIELD SERVICE REPORTS (Letter sent to Ecuador)

by elkatire1980 in

this letter was sent to all congregations in ecuador (south america).. the translation into english of the letter:.

to body ofelders.

subject: publisher who did not report field service time in the second semester of service year.. dear brothers:.

jwfacts

This is normal for August globally. The service year runs from September to August, so they try to get everything in August that is missing from the previous months so as to push the average up. It also helps provide for a potential peak publisher increase.