please be aware of everything that is happening around the world at this moment in time.
this goes to anyone, ex-communicated, removed, serving, believer and non.
at this point in my observations i have realized many religions/ideologies know there is some sort "end of time" or a transition into a new order of living in this earth.
Read some history. We are in a period more peaceful that almost any other time and with far better human rights.
There are still a portion of the world that endures terrible suffering, but it is distasteful how unappreciative people the complainers are of what they have, since most doomsday preachers are not the ones that are even affected by these world conditions.
take the case of rolf furuli.
i don't think there has been a specific thread on the hebrew verbs u-turn in the nwt, and how the society has responded to the work of perhaps their brightest and ablest defender in their history.
so here goes.. rolf furuli has defended jws on multiple fronts in many different settings, on issues ranging from chronology, mental health, doctrines, bible translation and the blood issue.
On this thread there was also mention of who comprised the new NWT translation committee. Do you know of any confirmatory evidence Jackson was involved?
I have not received any confirmation that Jackson was involved, but I agree with your comment that he was mostly likely involved, and actively so. Jackson worked in Watchtower translation for decades and made a name for himself by releasing the first Tuvaluan dictionary. He was called to New York in 2003 to do translation work, and now is involved with the writing, teaching and personnel committees. As one of the most experienced translators Watchtower has, it follows he would have been key to the project.
Considering the time involved in releasing a new edition of a Bible translation, I wonder if by 2003 plans were already in place for a new edition, and he was called to New York with a view to being involved with the translation, or alternatively if it was Jackson himself that suggested it after arriving in New York.
Hopefully there are members on this board that were at Bethel at the time with further insight into the NWT translation committee.
take the case of rolf furuli.
i don't think there has been a specific thread on the hebrew verbs u-turn in the nwt, and how the society has responded to the work of perhaps their brightest and ablest defender in their history.
so here goes.. rolf furuli has defended jws on multiple fronts in many different settings, on issues ranging from chronology, mental health, doctrines, bible translation and the blood issue.
Excellent thread. I wonder how Furuli feels about the lack of recognition, the subsequent changes to the NWT, and the affect this has on his faith.
At When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed? Carl Olof Jonsson shows that Furuli has been referenced in Watchtower letters and his works were the basis for the 2011 information on 607. If 607 were to be change, it would be interesting to know if Furuli would continue to remain a Watchtower follower?
what is the monthly stipend that the bethelites receive every month?
does any one has an actual number?
The reason for some of the contradiction in figures is that the amount varies by person. There is a monthly allowance, an annual allowance that is different depending on a person's age, and potentially a car allowance. I do not know the current figures, but it would average out somewhere between $150 to $250 per month.
it never has ceased to boggle my mind how twisted up jw thinking is.
when they see something like what happened in paris, in person they will express how sad and detestable it is quickly followed by "this is why we need the kingdom, and the desert god is gonna fix everything.
" here is where i get perplexed.
It just hit me, that going by this logic, JWs should instead be hoping that large amounts of people be killed now, so that at least they have a chance to live in pariah - dice.
Except they also need to believe that worldly people are so evil that they deserve to die at Armageddon, so it becomes a bit of a catch 22.
a bethelite was telling me that there are 83,000 theocratic facilities world wide.
he compared that to 35,000 mcdonalds and 21,000 starbucks roughly to show the size of the theocratic organization.
i am not sure where the 83,000 comes from what would he be counting?
can you send me the quote where the watchtower said that the word includes the book vindication?
thanks a bunch!.
.. the quote is in the 1932 watchtower, april 1, pg.101, par.
doesn't it seem strange that the bible never mentions the pyramids?
how could someone go to egypt at that time and not even so much as mention the huge monuments?
Isaiah 19:19-20;
"In that day there will prove to be an altar to Jehovah in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to Jehovah beside its boundary. 20 And it must prove to be for a sign and for a witness to Jehovah of armies in the land of Egypt; for they will cry out to Jehovah because of the oppressors, and he will send them a savior, even a grand one, who will actually deliver them."
Russell thought Isaiah 19 was referring to the great Pyramid, though it is strange that it is not more direct reference to it.
okay, i need to vent.
as a newly awoken individual, i have yet to "come out" to my hard core jdub parents.
my plan was to lay low and use my unbelieving husband and baby as an excuse for my "inactivity", it has worked for the last few months.
Either prevent your mother showing these videos now, or soon you will start answering questions from your child as to why you don't love Jehovah and how you will die at Armageddon.
Don't think that 4 is too young to be influenced. My son was 4 when he wanted to know why I am shunned, and asked questions about where life came from and what happens when we die.
sorry if this is old news but just heard that there will only be about 75 people left at sydney bethel after layoffs.
eyeuse2badub Aus bethel is in the middle of nowhere. I doubt any hotel would want it. Maybe dorms for a university. The land is in an area that there are some nice houses, so they may subdivide and sell most of it off.
I always thought Bethel was an inefficient waste. Who needs 400 staff to run a couple of printing presses and a service desk. 75 is what it always should have been.
