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  Do not Disassociate, Anull your baptism

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am now a jedi, so trust me on this.. .

  why dis-associate, you are just playing by the wts rules?

  how can you dis-associate anyway, you never thought you were baptised as a watchtower society member, you thought your dedication was to god, so why formally disassociate from something you did not formally join?

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  What a trip down memory lane. I recently wrote two articles about this topic.

  Should You Fade or Disassociate?

  Can Baptism be annulled?
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  Finding love as a witness

  by RawrSaysTheLion in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hi i'm new.. i'm going on 2yrs as a baptized witness although i've just received a reproval on the grounds of living with a wordly man unmarried for 6 months.

  long story short it ended messy and i ran straight back to the witnesses because i do love jehovah and i missed my family.

  my issues were only with the actual organization.. i desperately want to find someone to share my world with but i feel like i'm too tainted to be loved by anyone worthy in the truth and my morals are to high to love another boy from the world.

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  Welcome.

  my morals are to high to love another boy from the world.
  

  Not high, possibly different. Long lists of rules does not make a person moral, it makes them similar to the Pharisees.

  Continue to research, understand the judgmentalism and guilt imposed upon you by a coercive upbringing, and in time you will find there are many moral people worthy of your love.
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  Thoughts during the meeting today

  by stephanie61092 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  while i'm politely sitting during the meeting today, restraining myself from rolling my eyes as the brother drones on about how "having an independent spirit is devilish in nature" and "independence from gods organization only results in pain and strife", i only have one thought going through my mind over and over.

  "what would happen if i pulled out a gun and blew my brains out in this kingdom hall?".

  would anyone notice or care?

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  Or would everyone default to 'the world' ruining me?
  

  Correct answer.
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  If all the world were JWs....

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my former indoctrinated state, i used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.

  but hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,.

  first of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts.

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  Good point. If the world all miraculously converted when the Watchtower started publication in 1879, we'd basically be stuck in the 1800s. All just miserably waiting for the new system to arrive, but without the benefit of anti-depressants that JWs are so reliant on.
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  BOE Letter: Re: Magazine Requests

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory .

  re: magazine requests .

  dear brothers: in our letter to all congregations dated october 20, 2015, regarding making wise use of printed magazines, publishers are encouraged to use good judgment to determine an individual’s interest before offering magazines.

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  publishers are encouraged to use good judgment to determine an individual’s interest before offering magazines.

  Gone will be the experiences of offering a book to an irate passenger on a train who throws it out the window, hitting a suicidal person standing on the platform, saving their life both literally and spiritually.
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  Is the reasoning book no longer in use ?

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to know if witnesses are still using the reasoning book in the field service.

  i am asking about it, because i had read that it is currently out of print, doesn't it??

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  I feel quite sentimental about the end of the Reasoning book. It helped me on my way out. I decided to work my way alphabetically through the topics in the book and research other points of view. By the end I realised that there was barely a single topic where I could agree with the Reasoning Book's reasoning, or lack there of. What struck me is/was how very simple and black and white all the teachings are.
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  Honeymoon over for the carts

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  speaking with inlaws i another congregation today who said exactly what is being said in our own hall.

  the trolly work is long and boring and no one even notices they are there anymore but walk right on by.

  jehovah really is speeding up the work lol.

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  There has be a large jump in hours required per baptism over the last 5 years, an increase of almost 40%. This is related to several factors, but cart witnessing is likely contributing to how inefficient JW preaching is.
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  New here, never baptised (thank god)!

  by olongapo joe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just signed up and wanted to introduce myself.

  i had 1 x-mas and 1 birthday before both my parents joined the jw's around 1966 or 67 being 1 year old i don't remember them (the holidays), to this day holidays are nothing to me (thanks jw's).

  i never really believed the bible or jw literature.

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  Welcome. My wife is from Manila, and mother in law is still a JW who was born in Iloilo. I went to Subic and swam with dolphins at Ocean Adventure in about 2010. I often contemplate retiring in the Philippines.
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  Constant out-of-context quoting; how do Writing dept. cope with that?

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am just wondering here: almost every single quote in jw literature for which a source can be found, is taken out of context..

  personally, i have checked almost every quote in the 5-questions brochure, some on dating and the cross in reasoning book, and some in magazine articles i found interesting..

  just checked the "they envisioned a universe subject to whims of gods" quote in the feb 2016 awake..

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  I think it is quite likely that they often do not research thoroughly enough to even realise it is out of context. They see a catchy sentence, possibly not even in the original publication, and are not aware of the meaning surrounding that statement. I have been guilty of that myself, particularly when I first was looking for Watchtower quotes, finding a sentence that says what I wanted, without fully considering the context.
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  "If I wasn't born a JW, I would never have become one."

  by OneEyedJoe in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've seen it mentioned by a few on the forum that at some point there was a realization that had they not been born a jw, they never would've converted no matter how many times the jws tried to study with them.

  this was my experience too, and i'm wondering how universal it is for those that were born-in but eventually left.

  i think i started having this thought (more specifically that if i were not born a jw, i would surely have become an atheist by now) in my late teens.

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  You I always felt guilty about having to chance to survive Armageddon, as I knew I would never have converted if not born in.

  Nothing in the publications seemed compelling enough to convince someone to believe it was the true religion. I doubted for as long as I remember, and it hard to understand why I didn't trust the doubts, but thought doing more would help build faith.