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  Question about baptism around 1973- can anyone answer for me?

  by Virgochik in

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  2. beliefs

  i am hoping someone will take a look at this and be able to help me with my question.. i was baptized in 1973, you know, because i was a teenager and old enough to stand on my own when armageddon descended in 1975. .

  perhaps elders, or any former elders especially, but anyone who was around then could help me with this question, because i honestly don't recall, and really need to know.. what were the baptismal questions the candidates responded to back then?

  were we still asked if we repented of our sins, turned around, and were being baptized in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit?.

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  There is a summary of the baptism questions over the decades at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/baptism.php
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  Gorby says goodbye

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my eyes for ttatt opened in 1995 with the generation change and the wt magazine stated "some witness thought that the generation started in 1914".

  since 1997, with internet at low speed, i followed h2o hourglass, www.xjw.com and later on www.jehovahs-witness.net.. did a bachelor and post bachelor since then.. now, nearly completed with fading, i feel it's time to go on with my life and do some other things, spending more time with my wife abd children instead of thinking about jw topics in my head.

  goal is being a better person and less grumpy at 45.... everything what could be said is already said.

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  Are the anointed really "lovely people"?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've personally never met any of those who claim to be anointed but the other jw's who have are always unanimous in their praise of how lovely and what wonderful people they are.

  and i don't mean the gb i mean common or garden anointed.

  i was told that when they speak about being in heaven that they almost "seem to glow".. is this right?

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  I've known a number. Definitely nothing to set them apart from the crowd. They have really ranged the whole personality spectrum. Some have been quite mentally imbalanced, but in typical Watchtower doublespeak they would dismiss the nutty as pretenders, and the nice ones as genuine, hence perpetuating the myth that they are "lovely people." They have not spoken to me much about heaven, but when doing so it was no different than when the average JW speaks about their fantasies of paradise earth.

  If you want to see the answer to your question, look no further than the Governing Body, which contains quite a range. In general, "lovely people" would not be something that springs to mind to describe most of them.

  
  
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  Were you beaten as a child?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been confronting my mother with her dubious parenting skills (abuse) of me as a child.

  particularly the beatings i would get with the wooden spoon.

  not a light smack but hitting me as hard as she could for as long as she could.

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  Yes, she broke a few wooden spoons on me, but it is ok because it was done "out of love."

  There is an article at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/child-discipline-corporal-punishment.php outlining the Watchtower stance on spanking children.
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  Loyalty? Today's WT The RC. It's a fix!

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today's wt has the below scripture as it's theme.

  friday of the rc has the same as it's theme.

  the silver nwt is alone in using the word loyalty in this verse.

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  Good point. For the sake of accuracy though, there are a few translations that use loyalty or faithfulness.

  loyalty (ERV,MSG)

  faithfulness (HCSB,NET)

  See https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Micah%206%3A8
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  WT's expert on blood!

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the january 8, 2000 awake magazine published an article "the growing demand for bloodless medicine and surgery".

  this article has been quoted extensively by jws as support for their "scientific" justification for refusing blood products.. a quote from that article that is familiar to most jws and exjws is this one:.

  “all those dealing with blood and caring for surgical patients have to consider bloodless surgery.”—dr.

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  Joyzabel great find.
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  Since leaving WTTS have you joined a new church or just continue with the new beliefs you have discovered under no religion?

  by AmIright in

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  share your thoughts ?

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  Finkelstein10 hours ago

  Religion is a scam made up by mostly ignorant disingenuous power seeking men.

  This is how I feel. Moving to another religion is basically looking for a different set of men to be scammed by. Why would any one religious leader be chosen to impart truth over all the tens of thousands that claim to be God's mouthpiece?
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  New K.Hall Design, Mansfield

  by BluesBrother in

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  2. friends

  not mansfield u k , but mansfield in u s a - it doesn't look much, does it?

  in fact even the uber dubs on j w talk are not impressed (that must be a first!

  this thread of theirs is publicly readable:.

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  It is a great design, as it could be used for anything. They can build them with free labour and donations, and flick them off a few years later at a handsome profit for industrial usage.
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  Amazing Growth! Jehovah Is Blessing The Preaching Work!

  by Divergent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today's text:.

  saturday, april 2. the little one will become a thousand.—isa.

  60:22.. perhaps we live in an area where there are few witnesses or where we do not see a lot of immediate results in our preaching work.

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  Funny they still speak about growth when these days it is no where near as impressive as the past. Even the figure they show about Zambia is nothing special. " This means that 1 in every 18 persons in Zambia attended." There are also 1:18 Seventh Day Adventists in Zambia, and 1:5 Catholics. When I first read 1:18, it seems amazing compared to the 1:330 in Australia, but really it is just a figure that many other religions can claim as well.
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  300 books and magazines placed outside The Shard

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi all.. so i got a txt today from a very proud mum claiming that, the jw cart produced 300 book and magazine placements.

  mostly from foreign speakers.. the shard is the tallest building in the uk.

  this is where the cart was placed.. not a bad day they had really.

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  In their heyday they distributed tens of millions of pieces of literature a year, and only had a couple of hundred thousand baptisms, half of which are probably children born into the religion. 300 magazines is unlikely to have any result.

  I actually think that the carts will result in net negative growth. Few will join the religion from seeing a cart, but the JWs there become sitting ducks for people to approach them with well thought out information about the religion to make them think.