Posts by jwfacts

12

Thanks to this forum 14 years ago I broke free

by Happeanna in

i belonged to this forum for about 5 years ; 14 years ago and made many good online friends here.. it became my new family for awhile and i am very grateful for all the help i received.. for the first time in 10 years i went into a kh for a funeral, bearing in mind it was at the hall where my husband had been the presiding overseer and regular pioneer for many many years.. they were very surprised that i remembered all their names and was confident and happy.. someone said so are you back in the truth, i said simply !

yes i have my truth, thanks.. the elder in question said " well time will tell ?

"and i said yes it has hasn't it, but we aren't in competition..

jwfacts

" well time will tell ?"and I said yes it has hasn't it

Everything you wrote was quotable, but that really was brilliant. What a wit you have.

13

Can you guys help me? I need to find all the recent articles on the WT's most recent stance on education and carreers

by macys in

i am at work talking to a current jdub and i am making progress (i think) with her and right now the theme is education.

she says that the wt no longer looks down on education and is claiming that the wt no longer says we are close to the end!

tia!

jwfacts

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/higher-education-university.php contains a number of recent quotes.

41

If JWs were to change their name what would they change it to?

by slimboyfat in

was it 1931 when they adopted jehovah's witnesses?

(at the time with lower case w) isn't it about time now they changed name again?

i mean everything else is changing why not the name!

jwfacts

I don't know Paul, I get your point about it's value as a USP but the name 'Jehovah's Witnesses' is a tainted brand

Maybe. They could change their name to "Christian Witnesses of Truth," for marketing purposes. I do think though they should retain Jehovah as their God, and stick to their version of Arianism. The Trinity is a complex concept, and with the dumbed-down magazines, their target audience like the simplicity of Jehovah as God and Jesus as the son.

91

Is the Watchtower organisation facing the biggest crisis of its history?

by slimboyfat in

recent developments make me think they might be.

the problems they are facing are not just lack of funds but also draining authority, and the two could be a heady and explosive mix.

one of the best analyses ever written of the watchtower was a book called "trumpet of prophecy" by sociologist james beckford in the 1970s.

jwfacts

No.

The biggest crisis was the 1914 fail, followed by Russell's death. 75% left. Rutherford resurrected from the ashes the religion branded with his own unique style.

If 75% left now, they would still have 2 million followers with billions of dollars in equity. The next charismatic figurehead would have the perfect springboard to launch the religion from, put his own stamp upon, and if he desired a huge cash resource to live off.

in 2015 Watchtower spent 1/4 billion looking after missionaries and special pioneers. The current Governing Body are winding back this unnecessary waste of money, unnecessary branches and printing expenses, so that the religion can operate within its means. After shedding all that dead weight, anyone with decent leadership skills could take over and set up for great luxury for decades to come.

41

If JWs were to change their name what would they change it to?

by slimboyfat in

was it 1931 when they adopted jehovah's witnesses?

(at the time with lower case w) isn't it about time now they changed name again?

i mean everything else is changing why not the name!

jwfacts

I don't want to spoil the party, but I don't think a name change is required. That is the only thing they have going for them. If I took over, 1914 would be dropped, Armageddon would go, everyone has the chance of heaven, but the marketing differentiation would be "we are the only true (monotheistic) religion that worships the true God, Jehovah."

37

My First post

by Simple Minds in

i have been lurking on this site for 3 years and this is my fist post.

i would like to thank everyone for helping me wake up.

i was baptized at 24, married at 25, ms for 18 years mentally in for 24 years but started to wake up 3 years ago doing research to give public talks, and the actions of arrogant and narcissistic brothers and sisters did not help.

jwfacts

That is a good letter, and interesting approach that should not cause any trouble.

18

Does anyone have the original copy of the Awake 2015 Jan before it was changed?

by jwfacts in

jan used a famous scientist to garner misleading support for creation, quoting rama singh as saying "the opposition to evolution goes beyond religious fundamentalism and includes a great many people from educated sections of the population.

2015 jan p.3) whilst the quote is accurate, it misrepresents singh's intention.

singh continues in the same paragraph, "there are several reasons why facts of evolution are not easily comprehensible by the general masses.

jwfacts

Excellent, thanks WTS Archive.

18

Does anyone have the original copy of the Awake 2015 Jan before it was changed?

by jwfacts in

jan used a famous scientist to garner misleading support for creation, quoting rama singh as saying "the opposition to evolution goes beyond religious fundamentalism and includes a great many people from educated sections of the population.

2015 jan p.3) whilst the quote is accurate, it misrepresents singh's intention.

singh continues in the same paragraph, "there are several reasons why facts of evolution are not easily comprehensible by the general masses.

jwfacts

The 2015 Awake! Jan used a famous scientist to garner misleading support for creation, quoting Rama Singh as saying "The opposition to evolution goes beyond religious fundamentalism and includes a great many people from educated sections of the population." (Awake! 2015 Jan p.3) Whilst the quote is accurate, it misrepresents Singh's intention. Singh continues in the same paragraph, "There are several reasons why facts of evolution are not easily comprehensible by the general masses." He continues by explaining why educated people lack comprehension of evolution.

Prompted by Singh officially complaining about Awake! using “intellectual dishonesty” when taking him out of context, Watchtower retracted the statement, reloading an edited version of the Awake! issue to their site without the reference to Singh.

Does anyone have a copy of the original pdf they can send to me?

Before and After