Welcome. My wife is from Manila, and mother in law is still a JW who was born in Iloilo. I went to Subic and swam with dolphins at Ocean Adventure in about 2010. I often contemplate retiring in the Philippines.
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New here, never baptised (thank god)!
by olongapo joe injust signed up and wanted to introduce myself.
i had 1 x-mas and 1 birthday before both my parents joined the jw's around 1966 or 67 being 1 year old i don't remember them (the holidays), to this day holidays are nothing to me (thanks jw's).
i never really believed the bible or jw literature.
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Constant out-of-context quoting; how do Writing dept. cope with that?
by Anders Andersen ini am just wondering here: almost every single quote in jw literature for which a source can be found, is taken out of context..
personally, i have checked almost every quote in the 5-questions brochure, some on dating and the cross in reasoning book, and some in magazine articles i found interesting..
just checked the "they envisioned a universe subject to whims of gods" quote in the feb 2016 awake..
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I think it is quite likely that they often do not research thoroughly enough to even realise it is out of context. They see a catchy sentence, possibly not even in the original publication, and are not aware of the meaning surrounding that statement. I have been guilty of that myself, particularly when I first was looking for Watchtower quotes, finding a sentence that says what I wanted, without fully considering the context.
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"If I wasn't born a JW, I would never have become one."
by OneEyedJoe ini've seen it mentioned by a few on the forum that at some point there was a realization that had they not been born a jw, they never would've converted no matter how many times the jws tried to study with them.
this was my experience too, and i'm wondering how universal it is for those that were born-in but eventually left.
i think i started having this thought (more specifically that if i were not born a jw, i would surely have become an atheist by now) in my late teens.
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You I always felt guilty about having to chance to survive Armageddon, as I knew I would never have converted if not born in.
Nothing in the publications seemed compelling enough to convince someone to believe it was the true religion. I doubted for as long as I remember, and it hard to understand why I didn't trust the doubts, but thought doing more would help build faith.
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Don't know what to do
by looter ini'm in a crazy situation.
about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.
it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.
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Getting baptised is a very short term solution. In time you will quite likely get disfellowshipped, and that will destroy your relationship with your father far worse than it is now. If you manage to fade later and become inactive, you will then have your father on your case again about being inactive.
The better long term solution is not get baptised, face the immediate consequences if your father does follow through with his threats, but know that in the long term there will remain a better chance of some sort of relationship.
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"Fa La La"
by OnTheWayOut inout at the mall with mrs. otwo, she sees a shirt on the rack that was marked down from $25 to just $4.
she holds it up and says, "should i buy this as a workout shirt?".
i tell her "no, because as soon as you figure out what it means, you won't wear it anymore.
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No Sports Cars Please!
by snugglebunny ini read on a jw forum that jw's came in for disapproval if they drove either sports cars or 2-door cars.
the reasoning was that a driver couldn't easily take fellow dubbies out preaching in such a vehicle.
was that ever official policy or just local nonsense from a grumpy po?.
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When I bought a 300zx similar to this one, there were a lot of negative comments from the serious minded ones, and it seemed to convince them there was no hope left for me. The young guys loved it though, and two different couples used it as a wedding car.
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Thanks to this forum 14 years ago I broke free
by Happeanna ini belonged to this forum for about 5 years ; 14 years ago and made many good online friends here.. it became my new family for awhile and i am very grateful for all the help i received.. for the first time in 10 years i went into a kh for a funeral, bearing in mind it was at the hall where my husband had been the presiding overseer and regular pioneer for many many years.. they were very surprised that i remembered all their names and was confident and happy.. someone said so are you back in the truth, i said simply !
yes i have my truth, thanks.. the elder in question said " well time will tell ?
"and i said yes it has hasn't it, but we aren't in competition..
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" well time will tell ?"and I said yes it has hasn't it
Everything you wrote was quotable, but that really was brilliant. What a wit you have.
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Can you guys help me? I need to find all the recent articles on the WT's most recent stance on education and carreers
by macys ini am at work talking to a current jdub and i am making progress (i think) with her and right now the theme is education.
she says that the wt no longer looks down on education and is claiming that the wt no longer says we are close to the end!
tia!
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If JWs were to change their name what would they change it to?
by slimboyfat inwas it 1931 when they adopted jehovah's witnesses?
(at the time with lower case w) isn't it about time now they changed name again?
i mean everything else is changing why not the name!
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I don't know Paul, I get your point about it's value as a USP but the name 'Jehovah's Witnesses' is a tainted brand
Maybe. They could change their name to "Christian Witnesses of Truth," for marketing purposes. I do think though they should retain Jehovah as their God, and stick to their version of Arianism. The Trinity is a complex concept, and with the dumbed-down magazines, their target audience like the simplicity of Jehovah as God and Jesus as the son.
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Is the Watchtower organisation facing the biggest crisis of its history?
by slimboyfat inrecent developments make me think they might be.
the problems they are facing are not just lack of funds but also draining authority, and the two could be a heady and explosive mix.
one of the best analyses ever written of the watchtower was a book called "trumpet of prophecy" by sociologist james beckford in the 1970s.
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No.
The biggest crisis was the 1914 fail, followed by Russell's death. 75% left. Rutherford resurrected from the ashes the religion branded with his own unique style.
If 75% left now, they would still have 2 million followers with billions of dollars in equity. The next charismatic figurehead would have the perfect springboard to launch the religion from, put his own stamp upon, and if he desired a huge cash resource to live off.
in 2015 Watchtower spent 1/4 billion looking after missionaries and special pioneers. The current Governing Body are winding back this unnecessary waste of money, unnecessary branches and printing expenses, so that the religion can operate within its means. After shedding all that dead weight, anyone with decent leadership skills could take over and set up for great luxury for decades to come.
