Posts by jwfacts

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Is there anything recent in the publications about Jesus only being the ransom for annointed?

by NikL in

i was trying to find something recent that i can show "still ins" in my sphere but it is proving harder than anticipated.. most of what i am seeing is couched in confusing goblygook wt style prattle.. my wife argues that it's not even true and i think that's the case with most jaydubs.. so i guess if it is a teaching that is being allowed to fade, maybe it's not worth pursuing?.

any of you scholars out there got anything recent clear and handy?.

jwfacts

The 2016 Watchtower index at wol.jw.org also includes the topic "Mediator ... for anointed only"

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Is there anything recent in the publications about Jesus only being the ransom for annointed?

by NikL in

i was trying to find something recent that i can show "still ins" in my sphere but it is proving harder than anticipated.. most of what i am seeing is couched in confusing goblygook wt style prattle.. my wife argues that it's not even true and i think that's the case with most jaydubs.. so i guess if it is a teaching that is being allowed to fade, maybe it's not worth pursuing?.

any of you scholars out there got anything recent clear and handy?.

jwfacts

Darkspilver- Look up 'Mediator' as the main heading - then look down to 'Jesus Christ', then 'for anointed only:'

I haven't noticed that before. A simply elegant way to prove to a JW that this is their teaching.

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Is there anything recent in the publications about Jesus only being the ransom for annointed?

by NikL in

i was trying to find something recent that i can show "still ins" in my sphere but it is proving harder than anticipated.. most of what i am seeing is couched in confusing goblygook wt style prattle.. my wife argues that it's not even true and i think that's the case with most jaydubs.. so i guess if it is a teaching that is being allowed to fade, maybe it's not worth pursuing?.

any of you scholars out there got anything recent clear and handy?.

jwfacts

See http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/mediator.php

The 2010 book God's Word For Us Through Jeremiah continues to present this teaching, though subtly so few JW's would even notice.

"... the new covenant is between Jehovah God and spiritual Israel, with Jesus as its Mediator." God's Word For Us Through Jeremiah p.173

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Whether Jesus was a historical figure or not matters not

by venus in

when i suffered some loss what jesus said came to my mind: “if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also.” (mathew 5:40) principle behind this statement made flash to me: ‘here shirt is only a symbol of material things/comfort.

if you suffer a loss, have the mind-set that i have no problem even if i suffer some greater loss,’ and my worry immediately disappeared.

whether jesus was a historical figure or not matters not if what he (supposedly) said happens to be of great practical help..

jwfacts

Just about every book, fiction and non-fiction, can be cherry picked for wise sayings.

How about the things that Jesus is quoted as saying that were harmful and destructive? Jesus has been used as justification for evil as much as for good.

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Did Watchtower get any money from the Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation?

by jwfacts in

the holocaust victim assets litigation (swiss banks) cv-96-4849 is a fund to compensate people suffering from the holocaust.

as stated at swissbankclaims.com/index.asp (3 mar 2006);.

"this is the official information website for the holocaust victim assets litigation against swiss banks and other swiss entities.

jwfacts

The Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation (Swiss Banks) CV-96-4849 is a fund to compensate people suffering from the Holocaust. As stated at swissbankclaims.com/index.asp (3 Mar 2006);

"This is the official information website for the Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation against Swiss Banks and other Swiss Entities. You may have important rights under a proposed $1.25 billion (U.S.) Settlement of a class action lawsuit against private Swiss Banks and other Swiss Entities for their alleged conduct related to World War II and the Holocaust."

In 1999, the Watchtower Society applied for compensation payable to itself. As of September 28th, 2009 www.swissbankclaims.com contains the letter from the Watchtower Society. Included is a request to receive a portion of the funds on the following basis.

"Some Witnesses died prematurely and left no heirs to make a claim to the Swiss Bank Settlement Fund. However, the legacy of spiritual resistance that they left behind is of great value in the education of future generations about the importance of standing up for the dignity and value of human life. Representing these individuals, the Watch Tower would be pleased devote any allocated moneys solely to the interests of Holocaust education and the remembrance of the prisoners who bore the purple triangle, according as the court might stipulate."

I am trying to confirm if Watchtower received any money from the fund. It appears that Watchtower did not, if I am reading correctly the statement of distribution as of 31 December 2015:

"Inadmissibility decisions were claims that the CRT determined to be ineligible to participate in the Deposited Assets Class process. Under the terms of the Settlement Agreement, only the accounts of "Victims or Targets of Nazi Persecution" were payable from the Settlement Fund (with the exception of Slave Labor Class II, which was open to all Nazi victims). The Settlement Agreement defines "Victims or Targets of Nazi Persecution" as those who were, or were perceived to be, Jewish, Romani, Jehovah's Witness, disabled, or homosexual. Neither the CRT nor the Court had the authority to address Deposited Assets Class claims asserted on behalf of account owners who were not “victims or targets” as defined under the Settlement Agreement." See swissbankclaims.com/Documents/Distribution%20Stats.pdf.

It does seem that individual Jehovah's witnesses did receive compensation as part of the fund, classified as part of the tens of thousands of "non-Jewish victims (Roma, Jehovah's Witness, disabled and homosexual)."

Can anyone confirm if my conclusion is correct?

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Finally ready to join the crowd.

by Silent Knight in

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friends

hello, all you damn dirty apostates!

please, allow me to join this community of diseased minds.

i have been lurking here for over 2 years and tonight i decided it's time to come out of the shadows.

jwfacts

Until last summer when it all finally broke thru and I woke up. I also didn't understand what happen to me next. A crushing depression hit me that almost ended my marriage, that did cause me to loose my job, and caused me to have no sense of direction in life.

That is very much a shared experience and why the internet is so important to cult victims. I lost my job the same time I was disfellowshipped. Being able to know that you are not crazy, and not alone, is important to recovery, and I have no doubt has saved many lives.

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If a person is transgender and gets saved what will they go to heaven as?

by Nikorasu95 in

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friends

i know this is a stupid question because the answer is obvious, but if a person was born a male and gets transgender surgery to turn into female will that person go to heaven as a male or female if they died saved?

i think they will go to heaven with the gender they were born with.

jwfacts

Nikorasu95 - the answer is obvious

Really? What is the obvious answer?

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Baptized at a young age, homeschooled, and pioneered ...

by Wild_Thing in

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friends

and all of this by the time i was 14. i was the youngest person in my pioneer school.

was anybody else in the trenches (to this degree) at such a young age?.

i look back on it now and marvel at how isolated i was.

jwfacts

I think homeschooling is such a sad thing for a child. How many parents are equiped to spend the time and have the skills to properly educate a child in all the areas covered at school. Interaction with other school children is also a great way to learn how to deal with people in general. If a parent is diligent it providing the right education, and the child has a lot of friends at the kingdom hall it may work out alright, but it is particularly isolating if there are few children of the same age at that hall.

I am interested in how those that were homeschooled now feel about it, and how well they fit into work life and building friendships.

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Told My Parents Yesterday That I Don't Want to Be a JW

by Saethydd in

i wasn't entirely sure what to expect when i made the decision to tell my parents how i really feel, but i was prepared for the worst, fortunately, it didn't come to that.

after i told them i didn't want to go to the meetings anymore it led to a long talk with them.

they made a number of irksome and woefully uninformed statements but at least they were not aggressive and have said that they won't force me to move out over this, though, i can tell they are hoping they can convince me to "accept the truth," as long as i still live with them.

jwfacts

"If Jehovah doesn't exist one may as well shoot them self in the head." ... That if one can't exist forever then they may as well not exist at all.

It is an interesting concept. If a person cannot find joy living day to day for a short period of time, why would they feel that living forever would have any more meaning? Eternal life on earth will just be doing more of the same of life now, but without any end to it.

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Southern California USA Congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses On High Alert

by JW GoneBad in

circuit overseers, elders, ministerial servants, pioneers and rank & file are stressed out over an ex-jw (kevin) who has visited nearly 20 congregations (orange county) and has high-jacked the opening prayers and done some effective witnessing before he is escorted to the back door.

and everything is caught on video!.

kevin is also visiting numerous jw cart locations from the los angeles area to orange county and giving a most effective wiitness at each location and they're all on video.

jwfacts

I don't normally like this sort of thing, but Kevin has a really nice nature and comes across very well.