Thanks for the update. Sorry it didn't go in a more favorable way with the elder but I'm amazed he agreed to meet with you in the first place. Hopefully he does do some research.
Dams
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first of all,sorry for being so late with my update.my wife got up at 8 am this morning so i didn't have the opportunity to be alone for a while.. as for the meeting last night,the elder was very civil,actually commended me for writing my questions down.he never made threaths,asked me if i read apostate material or if i still considered myself a jw.. we started with the 607 question.he will not believe any research beyond the wt's but said he'd do more research on it(all wt) so i guess that will go no where.he believes that ctr got it right by using the bible so i told him if it was figured out 130 years ago,it should be very simple to explain today.the only time he looked stunned was when i showed him from the wt that they once believed that jesus' presence began in 1874.he said he had never read that and tried to walk around it even when i asked him if jehovah wanted his people to believe something that wasn't true.. we beat around a few other questions with nothing concrete coming out of it.he did take my list home with him and said he'd look at them more carefully to get some scriptural answers.i also got the feeling that my wife got a spiritual boost from his visit which was very disheartening to me.anyways,i'm going to work on this 607 thing and see how things go.my wife asked me if i felt like we got somewhere and i said no.beibg told that something is the truth just because the wt says so just doesn't convince me anymore.. i'm attaching my questions,hopefully they show up here.thanks everybody,i feel really down,like i'm wasting my time.i've been wanting to run from this religion for years and here i am still fighting to prove my points.. goldminer.
p.s.-question files won't load-sorry.
Thanks for the update. Sorry it didn't go in a more favorable way with the elder but I'm amazed he agreed to meet with you in the first place. Hopefully he does do some research.
Dams
everyone, hadenuf is out of surgery.
mumsy had knee replacement.
from what i know she is in alot of pain.
You poor dear!! Get well soon and come back to chat with us all! That's an order!!
Dams
i think the hardest thing i ever went through was my divorce.
it was something i knew i needed to go through, and get over, but it was the hardest thing of my life.
i wanted the divorce, but it was so very painful.... what's the hardest thing you've ever gone through?
The hardest thing was leaving my family behind in the JW's. The second hardest was telling my ex I wanted a divorce.
The only thing that got me thru it was knowing I needed to do them both for the sake of my mental health. I would have lost my mind otherwise.
Dams
rat is a happy person today !!!
here are a few pictures of my new car.
it has only 20 km on it.
It's loverly JH! My B'day is in October will you please buy me a new car for my my special day?
************batting eyelashes**************
Pretty please?
Dams
my computer crashed and i had to find a cheaper apartment.
so the last month i really, really missed ya'll!!!!!
did i miss anything good??
I wondered where you went! I couldn't imagine a month away. I took I week off at the beginning of august and thought I would get the shakes!
Welcome back
Dams
Welcome to the board!!
Dams
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i feel as if i'm on top of a mountain, and things are going good.
things could always be better, but i can't complain.. how about you?
I am enjoying some pretty good moments but I know there are better ones out there.
Dams
men are more intelligent than women.
(link).
discuss.
There are so many different levels of intelligence. Do they all get measured on this IQ test? I don't really care if men are smarter then women or if women are smarter then men.
A twit is a twit as far as I'm concerned. Gender has nothing to do with it.
Dams
when i was a still a teenage jw ( sounds like a bad b movie drive in flick ) i had a "worldly" boyfriend.
i didn't want anything to do with the jw's but knew i wasn't strong enough to just walk away.
he became the focus of my family's hatred and the reason they believed i left (nothing could have been farther from the truth) this helped me to avoid explantions of why i didn't believe.
I should have said other then the obvious ones.
Dams
well, its been a while since i was made a unbaptized publisher.
now my hand is going to be forced and i will have to be baptized by the end of the year.
my gf wants my decision very soon, like the next couple of days.
If you are not 100% sure then I think you have your answer. Have you told your girlfriend you are still having doubts? What about the elders in the hall? Have you spoken to them? If you are having doubts now they will only get worse with time, you will start to feel sick everytime you go in service, sit thru the meetings and pray.
Ultimately this is YOUR decision to make. Don't be influenced by what others want you to do. What do you want honestly want deep down inside? Trust your gut feeling.
Dams