when we see news reports of jehovahs witnesses who are reported to have done something bad, what do we think?
sometimes people ridicule us for that.
obey and become his special property, disobey and be rejected.
the bible is just a collection of Hebrew and Christian myth. You may as well look to Homer's Odyessy for advice.
Then who should care about the 3000 who died at the trade center. They would have eventually died as the animals do with nothing else to look forward to.
You live in a pretty glum world. No hope.
is this issue of the watchtower being part of the un department of public information of any significance?.
at the district conventions of jehovahs witnesses there are flags of the united states and other sovereign government such as states or other countries hanging from the buildings.
the governing body and the watchtower society rent buildings which become the equivalent of kingdom halls for the weekend.
Is this issue of the Watchtower being part of the UN Department of Public Information of any significance?
At the District conventions of Jehovah’s Witnesses there are flags of the United States and other sovereign government such as states or other countries hanging from the buildings. The Governing Body and the Watchtower Society rent buildings which become the equivalent of Kingdom Halls for the weekend. Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t find a problem with those flags hanging there. Why is that? To us, they are simply pieces of cloth. Nothing more. We don't honor or look to them beyond that.
Why would it be any different for this UN DPI thing? The Department of Public Information is simply that - A place to get information. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with support anymore than the flags hanging at the conventions mean that everyone is pledging allegiance to those flags. Because there are forms that needed to fill out does not change those prior statements.
The next principle to consider is: How does the actions of an individual working at the Watchtower Society affect the organization? It doesn’t. The organization is lead by Jesus Christ through the Governing Body. I don’t recall the governing body having a vote on the matter and then publishing the matter to the organization. So…
As I said, It is a non-issue.
when we see news reports of jehovahs witnesses who are reported to have done something bad, what do we think?
sometimes people ridicule us for that.
obey and become his special property, disobey and be rejected.
how is that possible, jw are a denomination, and according to even the wt it was not until 1930 did jw change their name from bible students to jw, I have never seen anyone in the bible who is called a Jehovah's Witness-
No, a $10 bill is a denomination. 2) a value or size of a series of values or sizes (as of money)
4) a religious organization uniting local congregations in a single legal and administrative body
Well, weren't Adam and Eve in their pure worship a religious organization though there were no congregations yet?
There was still that single legal body as in Jehovah.
until 1930 did jw change their name from bible students to jw, I have never seen anyone in the bible who is called a Jehovah's WitnessI wasn't referrring to a name was I? No I was referring to God's people. Of course the people at the end of the 1000 years won't need to be witnesses as the kingdom will be that which witnesses. But they will be Witnesses in that they are part of the Christian brotherhood. Sure Moses was one of Jehovah's Witnesses. In the resurrection he will be my brother in the faith like any other is now.
when we see news reports of jehovahs witnesses who are reported to have done something bad, what do we think?
sometimes people ridicule us for that.
obey and become his special property, disobey and be rejected.
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Are you saying that I can't answer my mail?
when we see news reports of jehovahs witnesses who are reported to have done something bad, what do we think?
sometimes people ridicule us for that.
obey and become his special property, disobey and be rejected.
the same concessions for people in other religions as you do for Jehovah's Witnesses.
I wasn't aware that I was making consessions.
I was explaining that nowhere in the scriptures will you find that God's people are expected to do no wrong. They are given choices. Some choose bad and others choose good. But none of that invalidates Jehovah's will.
I said nothing about those who are not Jehovah's servants so where do you get the idea "for people in other religions".
Since the scriptures say that those in the great crowd that come from the tribulation wash their robes and make them white in the blood of the lame, and that the Lamb w ho is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.” I don't see other religions in there. There are no concessions only admonition to do those things.
when we see news reports of jehovahs witnesses who are reported to have done something bad, what do we think?
sometimes people ridicule us for that.
obey and become his special property, disobey and be rejected.
presuming THEY have the only true religion and can do no wrong, then maybe more people would be forgiving of their wrongdoing.
In light of what I wrote (which apparently people don't get the point), Jehovah's Witnesses are not claiming that they can do no wrong. They are claiming that through faith, good works, focusing on loving Jehovah God and Jesus Christ, instruction from the scriptures, good associatians, etc, doing wrong can be avoided.
Any wrongdoing should be forgiven by people because that is part of Christianity, to work things out and to continue to do God's will, not look at individual. Remember the scripture says to imitiate their faith, not their conduct or hold their conduct against them.
when we see news reports of jehovahs witnesses who are reported to have done something bad, what do we think?
sometimes people ridicule us for that.
obey and become his special property, disobey and be rejected.
They criticise everybody else's religion on the grounds of what the menbers do who are not faithful.What's good for the goose...
You miss the point.
The point is that Jehovah puts before his people the choice to choose life or choose malediction.
That choice is not put before those who are not his people. Although they can choose life rather than malediction but choosing
to become one of Jehovah's people, but until then there is no choice.
We criticize other religions not because some are unfaithful, we criticize them because they choose the malediction. Or because their lack of choice to be on God's side places them in malediction.
Also because if the whole number of these "everbody else's religions" would as a whole do God's will there would be these wars and reports of wars, etc.
when we see news reports of jehovahs witnesses who are reported to have done something bad, what do we think?
sometimes people ridicule us for that.
obey and become his special property, disobey and be rejected.
Although a chosen people the jews were not seen by God as his organisation, scripture please?&
Hmm. Is this a question or a statement? Are you asking for a scripture to support the statement?
See my above message to this other person.
Jehovah and Christ was and is only concerned with people as individuals. ; Show me when he used an organisation rather than individuals as prophets or messengers, scriptures please. ;
Israel was his organization. I quoted Exodus 19:5,6 but I think I have to again.
" And now if YOU will strictly obey my voice and will indeed keep my covenant, then YOU will certainly become my special property out of all [other] peoples, because the whole earth belongs to me. 6 And YOU yourselves will become to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words that you are to say to the sons of Israel.”
Ok, now since he was speaking to this whole nation, this plural YOU. It was addressed to the people as a whole. But they proved unfaithful so he sent individual prophets and messengers to correct them. These prophets and messengers carried his message so Jehovah cared for them and action against those prophets and messengers as in 2 Cor 36 was action against Jehovah himself. Since that organization failed to listen, he rejected the nation of fleshly Israel and then granted the nation of Spiritual Israel the blessings of Exodus 19.
But there were no more Jehovah's Witnesses after the Messiah. ; JWs were the natural Jews. ; THAT is why the name Jehovah does not appear at all in any ancient Christian Greek manuscript. ;
I find that a false statemetn. In Christian times there were and are Jehovah's Witnesses as Paul said " All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, ". If Jehovah's people in the past were his Witnesses as Isaiah stated, then things would be set straight by all things Jehovah's people his nation again being his Witnesses. The purpose of their being called so in Isaiah 43 did not change when the identity changed from fleshly to spiritual.
Of course the name Jehovah does not appear in ancient Greek manuscripts. Jehovah is an English transliteration of the divine name so a language that was created long after the scriptures were written would not contain an English transliteration.
THAT is why Jesus did NOT say at Acts 1:8 anything about being Jehovah's witnesses, or even his father's witnesses - "And then YOU will be MY witnesses....and indeed to the earth's remotest end." ;Consistency at 1 Peter 4:14-16 ;- "But if any of you should suffer for being a CHRISTIAN, then there is no shame in bearing THIS NAME....If you are insulted for bearing CHRIST'S NAME, blessed are you for on you rests the spirit of God.
Acts 1:8 and your application is a misunderstanding. Jesus was not speaking in the sense that his Father called the Israelites his Witnesses in Isaiah. You can not just associate words. The contexts are totally different (like comparing John 8:58 to Ex 3:14, examine the contexts). Jesus' context was about telling a world that had not heard of him, about him. Jehovah's context was to a nation that knew him or should have known him.
As to Peter. (Thanks for reminding me of vs " 15 However, let none of YOU suffer as a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a busybody in
other people’s matters.) So he is saying that Christians could suffer from being those things. Sure they had Christians that were murderers, thieves, evildoers back then. That goes with my theme. Those actions did not invalidate the congregations.
Vs 14-16 that you highlight does not invalidate Jehovah's Witnesses in the first century. Again, their purpose was to preach about this new guy that was going around and healing and teaching new things. There would be people who would call them cults, there would be people of this Jewish religion who believed knew who Jehovah was but they needed to know who this Christ was. So that was their purpose, but it did not invalid their being Jehovah's Witnesses.
Despite the JW attempt to insert Jehovah's personal name for the natural jews 237 times in the New Testament where it does not belong,
If it does not belong then what would Jesus and the other apostles and writers do when they quoted from the Hebrew scriptures that contained God's name as Jehovah? Would they misquote the scripture and leave it out? Never.
Matt 4:10 For it is written; ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” Where is it written? Deut 5:9, Deut 6:13
Matt 22:41-45 Jesus quotes Ps 110:1. David used the name Jehovah. As the ASV said: A Psalm of David. Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool. " Why would Jesus change that quote? If Jesus failed in God's word then he failed. We don't believe that he did fail.
when we see news reports of jehovahs witnesses who are reported to have done something bad, what do we think?
sometimes people ridicule us for that.
obey and become his special property, disobey and be rejected.
When Jehovah had a nation, his organization, what happened? ;That's an anarchronism: the nation of Israel was never a strict, ordered religious organization.
Oh really? It would seem to be. They had a class of priests, the Levites. They had times and places of worship. The whole nation was organized into groups and worshipped in the prescribed fashion. That is the way that Jehovah prescribed.
Jesus is God, even the early Christians believed so. Common Jehovah's Witness objections:I can deal with those in a later disertation. I would rather stick to the topic for now. So as to this challenge. Email me or repost when I post that or start a new topic.; ; ; ; (1) John 1:1 should really read that the "Word is a god" as there is no article in front. He is only ;god in the sense of being a divine being. Indeed, the ;even Pagans called Paul a god (Acts 12:22, 28:3-6).
; ; ; ; (2) Thomas' exclamation at John 20:28 was really a prayer or exclamation of joy ;to Jehovah.
; ; ; ; (3) Christ subordinated himself to the Father as seen in John 17:3. Also in John 20:17, Christ called the Father "my God," but we do not see the Father calling the Son "my God."
; ; ; ; (4) According to Jude 9 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16, Christ is really Michael the Archangel.
when we see news reports of jehovahs witnesses who are reported to have done something bad, what do we think?
sometimes people ridicule us for that.
obey and become his special property, disobey and be rejected.
A former JW troll by the nick of Dunscot was of the habit of turning up from time to time under new pseudonyms, usually of obscure mediaeval or renaissance scholars, philosophers or mystics. I find it interesting that this "good little Dub" should choose to do the same. Just wonderin'.
Are you saying that you have never seen Alias?
