Posts by chasson

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Bill Bowen's unfortunate attack

by Jim Penton in

like carl olof jonsson, this is the first time i have ever written to this forum.

i have decided to do so, however, because i am saddened at what bill bowen has chosen to do in reference to ray franz.

let me say that i given bill full marks for publicizing an issue child abuse and the watchtower cover up of it and for taking a stand that has cost him a great deal personally.

chasson

However, the anti-cult movement is going full tilt in Europe today with France having declared some 173 different religions cults (sectes) and having passed draconian legislation against them.

Hi Jim,

Explain me the link you have made with french's anticultist movement and "brainwashing" ? I am french and i don't find any link. The scholarship like Singer who has made the brainwashing's theory are not a part of the anticultist's movement in french.

Second could you explain me the "french's draconian legislation" ? This is a typical argument made by some scientologist's apologist with no argument and unfortunatelly the US's comission has believed it !! The french's JW has made a tract on this subject, it was a deliberate misinformation from Watchtower. For a comment on this tract, which is the same as the scientology's argumentation, see in french:

http://www.chez.com/tjrecherches/MILStract.html

I hope that your comment are only a comment from someone who is more concerned in chronology, historic or bible's studies and who don't know exactly what it is happened in france and that you will be more prudent in the future.

Bye

Charles

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Cyril Lykkebo Malka

by Kent in

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hi folks .

a guy named cyril lykkebo malka, who made a lot of trouble with the danish support group for ex-jws, is making trouble for every ex-jw website who carries material printed by the danish christian newspaper "kristelig dagblad".. malka, it seems, seeks up these sites, and the journalist sends threats to the webowners about removing the material.. on malka's own website, http://www.malka.dk you will find that this joker steals material as anybody else, and he's been stealing lots of material from the watchtower observer, like documents from the hlc, pay attention, and other material.. he never tells anyone where he got the material, but he does write some interesting stuff:.

he publishes material printed in african newspapers (translated), and tells his readers kristelig dagblad has printed this story "slightly changed"!.

chasson

I am wondering whether this guy is himself believing the crap he is writing or it is only a calculated action to harm some groups in support of other interests. In both cases, I think, using his own terminology, he can be qualified of evil "psychopath".

Mister Jordan,

Perhaps i am disagree with mister Malka on several points, but i can say that your explanation of the psychology of Mister Malka is false, he is not a "psychopath". I have a bad feeling reading your post, perhaps you are a member of scientology or another cult...

Bye

Charles

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JanG - You're a Legend!

by Beck_Melbourne in

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i received this email only seconds ago and i'm just passing it on to those that knew jan, i have no other details:.

jan groenveld will no longer be a part of these forums.

she passed away in her sleep last night.

chasson

Too bad... Too bad...

Charles

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WT. Pays $30,000 Pollution Fine

by JWrobot in

chasson

Now the story is in french:

http://www.chez.com/tjrecherches/wtpollute.htm

Bye

Charles

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France: Media will be sooninformed of Child Abuse

by chasson in

a french association of jw's victim will informed the media about the child abuse and the silentlambs march in october, 1.. this is the first official declaration of an association fighting's cult in france on child abuse among jw.

i hope that it will be a start.. .

bye.

chasson

Hi Celia,

All I meant was that the media hadn't picked up on the child molestation issue yet in France.

I think that there are severals explanation on this issue.

First, we have in France some "mainstream" association regarding the problem of sect. The media take their information directly to this kinf of association, so if the association don't talk about a subject, the media too. Now, this is a "mainstream" association which will begin to talk about this subject. An individual ex-jw like me and others don't interest the media.

Second, i think we are culturally a "catholic" 's country, the problem of pedophilia has begun inside the catholic's church here and elsewhere, some anticultist have some problems to link the pedophilia among the JW, because this is not a specific problem of sect.

Bye

Charles

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Courtesy of silentlambs.org

by qwerty in

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http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37399&site=3

qwerty

chasson

It will be translated in french soon...

Bye

Charles

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France: Media will be sooninformed of Child Abuse

by chasson in

a french association of jw's victim will informed the media about the child abuse and the silentlambs march in october, 1.. this is the first official declaration of an association fighting's cult in france on child abuse among jw.

i hope that it will be a start.. .

bye.

chasson

Ok, thanks all,

I think that soon we must organise an e-mail campaign regarding the french's media, i have still made it alone with few friend with no result, but after the 1st October, i think that media would be interested on the pedophilic's affair.

Bye

Charles

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France: Media will be sooninformed of Child Abuse

by chasson in

a french association of jw's victim will informed the media about the child abuse and the silentlambs march in october, 1.. this is the first official declaration of an association fighting's cult in france on child abuse among jw.

i hope that it will be a start.. .

bye.

chasson

Oh sorry, Celia, i have forgotten to say "AUTOMATIC" translation ;-)

Bye

Charles

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France: Media will be sooninformed of Child Abuse

by chasson in

a french association of jw's victim will informed the media about the child abuse and the silentlambs march in october, 1.. this is the first official declaration of an association fighting's cult in france on child abuse among jw.

i hope that it will be a start.. .

bye.

chasson

Hi Anglise,

Is there anything we can do to help?

Well, perhaps one things, if you have time send a short e-mail of support to [email protected] , perhaps the association will see that a lot of people in the world are concerned about child abuse among JW.

Bye

Charles

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France: Media will be sooninformed of Child Abuse

by chasson in

a french association of jw's victim will informed the media about the child abuse and the silentlambs march in october, 1.. this is the first official declaration of an association fighting's cult in france on child abuse among jw.

i hope that it will be a start.. .

bye.

chasson

Here is the press Release.

Press Releas of the National Coordination of the Victims of the Jehovah's Witnesses Organisation:

Protest march in New York against the policy of the Jehovah's Witnesses to the pedophiles

" Silent Lambs " association of the victims of the pedophiles, organizes in Brooklyn September 27th, 2002 at 2:00 pm, a protest march around the buildings of the Watch Tower. The participants in this demonstration will be the victims, their families and all those who support them.

Each will carry a lamb of bit of fluff symbolizing the victims of pedophiles of the Jehovah's Witnesses . The walking will end in front of 25 Columbia Heights, world seat of the Jehovah's Witnesses . A press conference will take place where every present victim will tell briefly her experience, then bits of fluff will be put down in front of the door of the building.

The French Coordination of the Victims of the Jehovah's Witnesses Organisation joins to this walking the objective of which is to denounce the policy of Watch Tower against children's abusors: only worried of protecting above all its brand image, the Watch Tower prefer to treat internally cases of pedophiliat, to the detriment of the victims. Indeed, according to its internal regulation, there are needed two witnesses to agree to consider a complaint. This condition, practically impossible to realize, makes of the Organization of the Jehovah's Witnesses a " Paradise for pedophiles " according to the expression used by W.H. BOWEN, founder of the association " Silent Lambs " and recently excluded from the sect to have raised publicly the problem.

Always according to BOWEN, there would be in the world seat of the Jehovah's Witnesses a confidential file containing 23.720 listed cases of pedophilia, number given during the emission PANORAMA onto the BBC on July 14th, 2002. Television channel NBC and CNN also gave the word to the victims of this destructive policy during two issues dedicated to the subject. ..

During its press conference organized on October 1st in Limoges, the French Coordination of the Victims of the Jehovah's Witnesses Organisation will approach this subject.