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  Transcript of U.S. v. Rutherford, et al.?

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  over the past few months, i have been researching the wt society's doctrines and history.

  in doing so, i have tried to use as little so-called "apostate" material as possible.

  this is because (as we are all aware) witnesses are taught to fear apostate literature, and if i ever hope to enlighten any of my loved ones, i am not going to be able to do so by waving a copy of coc in their faces.

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  chasson

  Here is the consolation where the moyle trial is mentionned:
  
  http://cchasson.free.fr/deposit/consolation/Consolation%20December%2020,%201944.pdf
  
  Bye
  
  Charles
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  Consolation on Demand

  by chasson in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have a lot of consolation magazines that i could scan.. if you want a particular issue for research, tell me and i will scan it, and you can tell to the board more what are your research, so everybody will have more insight.. .

  here is one of this magazine concerning the madison square garden incident.

  this incident is connected with the olyn moyle's trial and it is interessant to see the vision of rutherford concerning this.. he tried in this magazine to excuse the usher, because what he said on stage was "the word of jehovah", so nobody must stop the "spreading of the word of god".

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  New scan. Consolation January 21, 1942:
  
  http://cchasson.free.fr/deposit/consolation/Consolation%20January%2021,%201942.pdf
  
  Bye
  
  Charles
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  league of nations

  by buffalosrfree in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  awhile back there was a reference to the older wt's abt league of nations please to help

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  chasson

  If you want to examine precisely the path to the League of nation= bad in 1919, go here:
  
  http://www.tj-encyclopedie.org/ONU#La_g.C3.A9n.C3.A8se:_La_Soci.C3.A9t.C3.A9_des_Nations
  
  The text is in french but the Watchtower references are in english so you can understand the slowly move to the critic of the league by rutherford.
  
  Bye
  
  Charles
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  Transcript of U.S. v. Rutherford, et al.?

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  over the past few months, i have been researching the wt society's doctrines and history.

  in doing so, i have tried to use as little so-called "apostate" material as possible.

  this is because (as we are all aware) witnesses are taught to fear apostate literature, and if i ever hope to enlighten any of my loved ones, i am not going to be able to do so by waving a copy of coc in their faces.

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  chasson

  Atlantis i have a copy of it too, if you want that i scan a part ?
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  C T Russells Divorce

  by chicken little in

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  2. scandals

  can anyone give me a thread on the courtcase that dealt with russells divorce?

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  chasson

  The Pdf is in english !!
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  The UN is on the verge of banning religion - JWs favorite rumor

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the un is on the verge of banning religion.. why is this rumor constantly being brought up by the jws?.

  the un does not have the power to ban religion, such an act would go against its very charter and its declaration of human rights.. many of the member nations are islamic and would never vote to ban religion as it would undermine their own very existence.. so the idea that the un would or could ban or even consider banning religion is unrealistic.

  never going to happen.. but the jws have been whispering that "the un is going to ban religion" for decades....why?

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  To be true, Leolaia i have read to quickly your post, this is really a good explanation !!
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  The Discoveries of Barbara Anderson in french

  by chasson in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a friend of mine has made the traduction, if someone is interested to read it in french: .

  http://www.tj-encyclopedie.org/barbara_anderson .

  bye .

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  A friend of mine has made the traduction, if someone is interested to read it in french:
  
  http://www.tj-encyclopedie.org/Barbara_Anderson
  
  Bye
  
  Charles
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  The UN is on the verge of banning religion - JWs favorite rumor

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the un is on the verge of banning religion.. why is this rumor constantly being brought up by the jws?.

  the un does not have the power to ban religion, such an act would go against its very charter and its declaration of human rights.. many of the member nations are islamic and would never vote to ban religion as it would undermine their own very existence.. so the idea that the un would or could ban or even consider banning religion is unrealistic.

  never going to happen.. but the jws have been whispering that "the un is going to ban religion" for decades....why?

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  chasson

  Leolaia, i don't think that Knorr has dropped to quickly the believe that the "new" League of Nation would be totalitarian, in the booklet "Peace can it last", the two possibilities are still here (a negociated peace between the axis power and the allies or still a totalitarian league because the catholic church is behind the totalitarian governments) . Knorr (or Franz) has only said that the Catholic Church will be the leader in making this new league unfortunatelly, this only real prediction in this booklet was false, as the prediction that this new league will quickly persecuted the JW.
  
  See in french a sum-up of this booklet: http://www.tj-encyclopedie.org/La_paix_de_demain_sera-t-elle_de_longue_dur%C3%A9e%3F
  
  Even more, the book published in 1942 is more precised pages 343,344 (The New World):
  
  
  " Be it noted that "the king of the south"
  has disappeared from prophecy following
  verse forty . This is ominous . It suggests with
  other scriptures that all nations go totalitar-
  ian before the FINAL END, and the interests
  of "the king of the north" and "the king of
  the south" merge together, with religion on
  top as the binding tie . It means a federation
  of the world ; and there are already published
  expressions and signs at hand that
  this shall take place at the world peace conference,
  for which the Vatican's chieftain is
  grooming himself. "
  
  So the believe in a totalitarian super power has not been forgotten in 1942, it has been forgotten since by JW, who want us to believe that Knorr has had some power of prediction in 1942: It is naturally false.
  
  To see another quote of New World in english see http://www.tj-encyclopedie.org/Le_Monde_Nouveau
  
  Bye
  
  Charles
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  WTBTS Official Testified in the US Congress that Rutherford is Inspired

  by Leolaia in

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  mr. goux.

  mr. goux.

  mr. goux.

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  An example of change concerning the Rutherford conspiracy theory:
  
  In 1932, in Vindication Volume 2, commenting Ezechiel 26-28, Rutherford said that Tyre represent the Big Business, and among the men who controlled it some Jews.
  
  In 1937, in Ennemies, in connexion with Isaie 26, Tyre has been identified first to all the Satanic Organisation, and few pages after, to the Catholic Church.
  
  A major flip-flop in only 5 years (and even in two page of the same book).
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  When Rutherford was cited by Coughlin and the Fascist Poet Pound

  by chasson in

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  2. beliefs

  in vindication volume ii, you can find a series of letter allegdly written by the english bankers rothschild to some banker in united states.

  rutherford wanted to prove by this letters the conspiracy of "money maker" for the beginning of the civil war.

  (pages 170 to 179 of vindication volume ii) .

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  Just another question: What was "the Populist movement" the old man that Rutherford was talking about seems to have had some implication in it ?