If a Kinkdom melody gets stuck in my head I just change the words to make it as profane as possible.
W
it has been over 8 years since i have been in a hall.
yet once in a while when i'm doing menial tasks i start to hum a kingdom melody.
aaahh!!!
If a Kinkdom melody gets stuck in my head I just change the words to make it as profane as possible.
W
since it is pretty clear what all of you do not believe i am wondering what you do beleive?
1) who is the creator of the universe?
3) why do we grow old and die?
My guess is that it is 10% sincere, 90% just out to cause pain. I hope I am wrong.
I would guess that the vast majority here are sincere. Many of us have experienced much pain, and it's sometimes reflected in our posts. Personally, I don't care what a person believes, as long as those beliefs don't hurt others. W
since it is pretty clear what all of you do not believe i am wondering what you do beleive?
1) who is the creator of the universe?
3) why do we grow old and die?
I believe that allowing the human race to suffer for thousands of years simply because 2 people whom we have never met ate some "forbidden fruit" is a gross perversion of justice. Any 5 year old child can understand that she doesn't deserve to be spanked for the misdeeds of her brother, yet millions of people believe it's OK, even just, for God to do far worse.
I believe in myself. At least I'm consistent.
W
so i was writing a paper the other day, specifically about the skewed world view that i had had as a witness, and i typed the following - .
pain, misery, strife, these were all things that used to prove to me that jehovah's witnesses were correct in their assessment of a dying world which was soon to be liberated/obliterated by the hand of god.
this "liberation" was something that i desperately longed for.
We had a CO visit once and we were told, at our service arrangement, to ask the householders if they ever prayed the Lord's Prayer. And we were supposed to explain to them that, every time they said "let your kingdom come" they were actually praying for their own destruction. We were told to support our statement using:
Daniel 2:44
44 “And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;
I'm surprised more householders didn't kick our asses.
W
second to last paragraph quoted:.
in san diego, california in the 1920's, the organization built a house in california called beth sarim.
the hebrew words beth sarim mean 'house of the princes'.
Rutherford used the villa,it's two luxury cadillacs and it's copious supply of scotch whiskey for himself for many years until his death in 1942,
I bet it was a single malt too.
W
do you think the wt has become more lenient or stricter over the year?.
i am 21 and i remember just 4 years ago going to college was looked at as something negative.
girls my age, we had plans to be ft pioneers and become secretaries.
Hi, The brothers have never changed their position on schooling. Kingdom was and continues to be number one priority, (Matt 6:33). If you need to go to school to support yourself then the Almighty knows that...the important thing is to always put him first and he will sustain you.
He sustained me by permitting me to move back into my mothers home when I lost my own home - twice. The first time my crutches sustained me while I carried a few belongings, leaving the rest behind because the "brothers" would not help me move. When I was injured the "brothers" lightened my workload by going out to canvass my customers and undercut my prices. The second time I lost my home I was turning down job offers that involved shift work. I didn't accept them because I didn't want to miss meetings. I was blessed by Jehover, who saw fit to simplify my life by allowing me to lose my apartment once again. W
scripture?
i know it may be hard to narrow down just one.
how about what is or was one of your favorite scriptures?
In fact, it was the bear that killed them, not the prophet. If you are blaming the prophet for telling a bear to do that, then you are saying the prophet had the power of God to command the bear to do so.
2 Kings 2:23, 24
23 And he proceeded to go up from there to Beth´el. As he was going up on the way, there were small boys that came out from the city and began to jeer him and that kept saying to him: “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” 24 Finally he turned behind him and saw them and called down evil upon them in the name of Jehovah. Then two she-bears came out from the woods and went tearing to pieces forty-two children of their number.
It looks to me like Elisha was not just an innocent bystander - he called down evil on a bunch of small boys. All because he was overly sensitive about his receeding hairline.
So, the next time a kid calls me fat is it ok if I kick him in the stomach? After all, it's not like I'm killing him, right? I'm sure the judge will understand, especially if I recite this scripture to him.
W
i'm interested in finding out what planted the seed in your mind that got you started on questioning the watchtower.
what issue, event, or idea started you on the path to rejecting the watchtower?
and while we're at it, what event was the straw that broke the camel's back, that pushed you over the edge to finally quitting the organization?
Sounds like all of you are looking for a life of ease,
Now that would be silly. There's no such thing as a life of ease.
If you were looking for truth when you left - what did you find that was so inspiring?
It was truth that caused me to leave. Truth about the Watchtower's protection of child molesters. Truth about the Watchtower whore's fornication with the UN. Truth about the Watchtower's sanitizing it's own history.
What's inspiring? The knowledge that no God who is worthy of my worship would expect me to bow before an abusive publishing corporation.
W
scripture?
i know it may be hard to narrow down just one.
how about what is or was one of your favorite scriptures?
AGAIN finally he didnt ACTUALLY WANT the foreskins! He figured David would be killed by the very ones he was trying to get the foreskins from.
Yes, but why did he ask for FORESKINS??? Why was such a thing even on his mind??? Why didn't he ask for thumbnails, eyelids, or nostrils???
I still think Saul was one warped SOB!
W
scripture?
i know it may be hard to narrow down just one.
how about what is or was one of your favorite scriptures?
Again another person not understanding an account due to the lack of reading in context! Lets look at some verses that preceed those given by you.
I understand the context well enough. I was merely practicing my Watchtower induced skill of deliberately taking scriptures out of context when it suits my purposes.
You've got to admit, the guy must have had some serious mental problems to even think of such a thing! FORESKINS!!! What the hell was he gonna do with them???
W