Funny you mention this...I can't recall a one. Some intense street-work conversations, but none at the door. People were never home. I now realize how many were just dodging us.
Isaac Carmignani
i have a few that i remember that were interesting.
of course, those that i supposedly helped.. but i also remember one man at an apartment.
i started to talk about the universe, and how the planets are aligned perfectly, and the earth is the perfect distance from the sun to support life.
Funny you mention this...I can't recall a one. Some intense street-work conversations, but none at the door. People were never home. I now realize how many were just dodging us.
Isaac Carmignani
before fast food...there was the soda fountain.
anyone here remember them?.
once in a while on a special saturday, my grandmother would take me to town.
The banana split and Woolworth's....mmmmmm
i have to wonder why there has been no major new reporting source that has taken it upon themselves to do a big expose' on the borg?
i know that there have been some great things on pedophelia and blood transfusions but what about a one hour special on all the problems this destructive sect has caused in millions of peoples lives all over the earth?.
am i missing something.. thanks.
I have to say I've observed the same as far as JW's not being that important in the outside world. They are important to us because of our experiences and those of our families. But JW's (and as mentioned even some ex-JW's) have a MAJOR misconception that anybody really cares. If that was ever proved it was with MJ. With all of the attention on his death, only passing reference is ever made to his religion. Most people have little clue of what this cult really does or how it affects people anyway. Even in positive ways like Supreme Court battles that they have been involved with concerning freedom of speech or civil rights, JW's are not well known for having been involved. As least not in the general consciousness.
Now if something major were to happen with them it might attract attention. But I can't think of what would have that kind of captivating attention. And as has been mentioned WT is very litigious. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see an expose. I have even tried in some small ways to move that along. But as mentioned nobody really cares. Perhaps what could trigger it is someone on the inside of politics or entertainment being really interested in tackling the issue.
This doesn't mean that we shouldn't continue the fight. We most certainly should. And every once in a while someone gets a nice article in the local media such as a letter disassociating themselves that I am sure has an impact. But that is where this battle will be fought. In small steps, and in the courts. Quietly. But we must always be ready for any chance to put this issue in front of the public. One never knows when the tide may turn. Barbara Andersen is in Europe, Bill Bowen spent some time in France recently, those efforts could reap some huge dividends one day.
Isaac Carmignani
whether you are a witness or have been.
you have probably thought of this before.
i ask myself this one, how perfect is perfect?
While blunt, I think shamus nailed it.
i would like to see the wt article about it.
thanks!.
I think they water down Paul's words because they know the sisters would never stand for that crap. In Paul's alleged writings he seems to have just wanted them shut. Period. Such rules are not in the writings accredited to Jesus. That of course doesn't mean he wouldn't have endorsed it or maybe said it at some point. But it's amazing how WT can build a whole explanation that really rests on very thin ice.
once again our lurking jw friend sent us this latest mind control drivel from the " witness only " watchtower.
remember - this is the information our jw relatives will study in their witness meetings at their watchtower study.
this is what they are currently being indoctrinated with.
All I can say is more Kool-Aid for the dubs to swallow.
Isaac
a woman with the courage of her convictions, and 2009 wimbledon champion..
Yes but is she really doing what the FDS says Jehovah wants her to do?????
.. *** w98 3/15 p. 22 par.
15 living up to christian dedication in freedom ***.
15if a witness makes decisions on the basis of bible counsel offered by the governing body, he does so of his own volition because his own study of the bible has convinced him that this is the proper course.
Those irresponsible morons!
here's the real simple version of the complicated doctrine of when jesus supposedly returned and the last days arrived/ended/started.
william miller said that jesus' return would be in 1844.
(see the great disappointment at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/great_disappointment ) people who believed what he said were known as "millerites.
Yup, to the point where the average dub believes old Chuck actually predicted the war. Which of course he didn't.
here's the real simple version of the complicated doctrine of when jesus supposedly returned and the last days arrived/ended/started.
william miller said that jesus' return would be in 1844.
(see the great disappointment at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/great_disappointment ) people who believed what he said were known as "millerites.
OTWO, you hit the nail on the head. I saved this as it's a nice simple way of explaining this stuff to my daughter.