It actually felt like a weight was lifted when I realized that there really isn't any such thing. I think the whole "need the new system" thing just messes with one's mind, self-esteem, and leaves one in bondage to the WT future.
Isaac
It actually felt like a weight was lifted when I realized that there really isn't any such thing. I think the whole "need the new system" thing just messes with one's mind, self-esteem, and leaves one in bondage to the WT future.
Isaac
http://www.watchtower.org/e/20050901/article_01.htm.
we cannot do as you ask, replied one of the family heads.
those people came to teach us the bible.
They are so full of their own shit, they don't even recognize that they smell like shit anymore....
So true. If that family or any member thereof disagreed with the GB, they would shunned all over again!
Isaac
coolest day ever!
i've only flown twice in my life and that was a long time ago, and never in a helicopter.. .
1st and 2nd batallions participated in a helo medevac drill today.
I am so jealous. But very happy for ya.
Isaac
so what do you guys think the next major lie will be?
or should i say wt light getting brighter teaching?
they had to change 1874 to 1914 since it didn't have anything to be backed by but 1914 they at least based it on 537bc minus this plus that blah blah blah we got 1914 (hide the pyramid measurments) :) if 1914 comes and goes they will have to do something major!
I think they are in a real jam. I've always thought that they might declare a start to the "great tribulation". But then again they then start a countdown to Armageddon. 2014 has never been mentioned so aside from them catching heat on Jesus' lack of activity for one hundred years I don't think much will be said about it. They are in a real jam in if they start spouting years and dates again. I don't think they have anymore credibility in that area. They will probably keep saying "soon" and stay in a devastating holding pattern hoping that "Armageddon" pulls them out of the pickle they have placed themselves in.
Isaac
i was an elder many years and only sat in on one case of marital infedilty.
since there was a confession in this instance.
we didn't need to know anything about the "act" (and none of us really wanted to know).
What Metatron and Stillajwexelder said. Add to that that these acts can be with someone of the same sex and still be considered adultery.
Isaac
on the thread about 'moving on after leaving the witnesses', it brought to mind how hard it is to build new friendships .. for me i have been out for a little over three years .
i knew before i quit that it would be important to fill the void that would be left when old "friends" began dropping us .
lucky for me i worked with some very fun out going people at my job .
I have made new friends in two places. Work and my school community. I started this process even before leaving. In both cases I have built on my strengths and not had to change myself too much. What I mean is that my co-workers know about the JW's and so I can be open with them. In my school community I've tapped into my volunteer and leadership skills I developed as a JW and an elder. I use both and find that I fit right in. If you'd like, PM me and we can talk either that way or by phone if you would like to hear more of my story.
Isaac
...crisis of conscience and combatting cult mind control in my possession!!
bought them today!!.
i can't say enough how much this site has helped me thus far!
Awesome. It's always great to see someone learning what is wrong with WT rather than simply leaving because of the stress.
Isaac
hello, some of you may know me by my screen name others probably don't.
so a friendly hello and a quick bio for those who don't know me.. .
i am 25, d/a'd when i was 22. i was a born-in, my family shuns me because of my d/a'ing.
Welcome to the club here. Come as often as you like. Sometimes I'm sporadic too due to my busy and satisfying life after the org and my odd work hours.
Isaac
I've seen many things. But the unwritten encouragement given is to wait at least one year. The congo one is in gets the details if too far away from the disfellowshipping congo to facilitate a hearing. It then conveys those details along with it's opinion to the original congo. The original one makes the final decision. They have the case notes and generally do NOT forward those notes to the new congo. Elders are given training at KM school and extension classes at CA time as to how to proceed on specific issues that may have recently burned elders in the circuit or that may come from the branch office. CO's are rarely contacted unless they happen to be visiting or the case is unusual. They can go off of a first letter but many times don't as they want to be sure that you are "repentant".
Isaac
russell was to inherit a clothing store franchise....he could have been as big as k-mart today!
instead he created an organisation known around the world as "the watchtower society" which has enslaved 7 million people with it's rules and lies.
this organisation owns half of new york and millions of dollars worth of properties, so was it a good or bad investment?
But what a waste of money. Starting a bogus religion when it could have gone to actually helping mankind.
Isaac