Thankyou Jaffacake for your informative research. I wrote down the verses you chose to use. I appreciate the time you spent.
Posts by anewme
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The death of Lawrence's daughter prompted more research
by jaffacake inhttp://www.commentarypress.com/eng-search-ch9-01.html
this blood issue is so important.
even the wts knows now the doctrine was in error but has painted itself into a corner, from which it tries to extract itself very gradually for fear of a backlash.. if you folks read nothing else this month, please read the free online chapter 9 from in search of christian freedom, if you truly wish to understand scriptural truth about blood.
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Defd, why are you being so mean?
by Elsewhere in.
it is possible to express one's thoughts and ideas without being so mean to others..
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anewme
Please see my comments under "Help....by Shunned Father"
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THEY MURDERED MY DAUGHTER - WILL YOU HELP ?????
by SHUNNED FATHER intwo leading oncologists both agree that my daughter bethany might be alive today if she had not been fed arsenic.
as you may recall, the wts arranged to take my sick daughter into hiding for two months and payed a doctor to prescribe arsenic.
the doctor ant the wts lawyers convinced bethany that the arsenic treatment could cure her.
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anewme
Excuse me but I really think this Dfd guy is my ex husband in disguise!!!
This is a witness wasting our discussion time on this board.
He reminds me very much of my ex. He would dismiss all my feelings and gut unhappiness by reminding what Abraham or Moses or Jedediahthuselah said thousands of years ago. He sliced away at my self worth as a human being and pushed the Watchtower Society down my throat and up my nose. He argued with me at three oclock in the morning over Bible doctrine, always having the last word.
What a smarty!
He lost his pretty rose.
I fled this man who would rather see me dead than free now from the Society and happier.
Sorry, but this thread is going way away from the original plea by this dad to organize against the Society.
And my memory and emotions were pricked by dfd's comments.
Another memory surfaces! That same husband on 911 upon hearing of the twin towers destruction said to me "Wow, the tribulation is nearer!"
I slapped him.
The JWs have innappropriate responses to others feelings because they really view anyone outside of the org as manure, fertilizer or the New World. -
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If you pioneered - what was your secular job?
by truthseeker inif you ever pioneered or are pioneering(!
) what did you do to support yourself?.
were you living off mom and dad?
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anewme
Regular Pioneering. Just the words sends an awful chill through my body. I never wanted to pioneer. I was very shy. The girl I studied with in high school badgered me into pioneering with her. She was the sole pioneer in our hall and wanted a buddy. She made me promise to pioneer with her after I got baptized. The night I turned in my pioneer slip, she has a nervous breakdown and turns in her resignation as a pioneer!!!
Oh my Gawd!!!!!!
Now I am the only pioneer in the hall!!!!!
Let your yes mean yes! So I tried. I worked as a housecleaner with an older sister. We split the small sum she asked for her services. Like I said I was shy and found it very difficult to ask other sisters to invite other sisters to work with me. I had a very old car with a torn head liner. I could tell sisters were loathe to go in my old car with no air conditioning. I wound up taking a territory all by myself at 18 years old.
I got hit on by the householders so many times. I was so young, sweet and naive and shy. I'll never forget one particularly uncomfortable incident with a very old man who at first reminded me of a sweet older grandfather figure. He invited me in to listen and sat me down on his old sofa.........I cannot re- tell
this incident it grosses me out so much.
I remember the C.O. wanted publishers who have pioneered to be used in an assembly part. The P.O of our hall begged me to join small group. I said no. I hated pioneering and hated the experience and will never do it again. Its not for me.
I did housecleaning, and worked in a small hospital two days a week cleaning the body parts off surgical tools. Dont ask me about pioneering....blecchhhh!!! -
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Is this shunning?
by Ellie in.
its a long story but basically i was having a bible study with my half sister, i hadn't had a lot to do with her during my childhood so studying was for me an excuse to get to know her, and she was lovely, she couldn't do enough to help me, until i stopped going to the meetings and told her i didn't want to study anymore, then she dropped me like a brick and now refuses to speak to me at all.. shortly after this happened our younger brother started to study with her son, my brother needed somewhere to stay so they offered for him to move in with them which he did.. he became quite engrossed in his studies, they encouraged him to stop associating with his worldly friends which he did, he became an unbaptized publisher, but still they didnt really associate much with him, even my sisters 2 sons who live in the same house as him and are the same age group didn't bother much with him, so my brother found himself quite isolated, and ofcourse i'm bad association so he was always told not to visit me.. anyway, due to all this hes missed a few meetings recently, not many but just enough for them to tell him that hes got till september 7th to leave, giving the reason that hes not making enough of an effort to serve jehovah.. what do you all think?.
is this typical behaviour of jehovahs witnesses, or are my family really messed up??
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anewme
Yes, its like a real sci-fi film where you discover that they are all pod people and not genuine parents or friends anymore. Its the brainwashing they undergo. Its the selfish goal of wanting to gain the paradise new world. Anyone who might discourage them from it becomes the enemy. Anybody, father, mother, child.
Many of us were like that too while we were gulping down the "food" they were feeding our minds.
Now that we are out we can see what happened so clearly.
It was a subtle progressive brain washing.
When I grew tired of the monotonous schedule and asked my husband for a change in our routine I saw the look on his face. Yep, he was now a pod people. Twenty years of marriage and all we had been through as elder and wife amounted to nothing when I asked him for a break. He insisted I see a doctor and go on drugs like the other sisters.
This began the end of our marriage, me asking for the book study to be removed from our home and the weekend field service to be conducted somewhere else other than our home after 15 years.
I just wanted a break. But no, that is not soldiering on to the end.
I do believe that man would rather see me dead than alive as I am now.
These people are in a sick condition. I have never told anyone what happened on 911 in our home.
I am afraid to tell anyone. I came in and told him I had turned on the television early to catch the morning news and that the twin towers were destroyed by a terrorist bomb and that so many Americans had died. He lit up kind of happy and said "The tribulation is nearer!"
I am not making this up. I slapped him across the face and told him he was insane to say such a thing after all these innocent people had just died and were maimed.
This was an elder!
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How do you deal with "Anxiety"
by ScoobySnax inhave you ever had anxiety?
i don't mean general anxiety you get before an exam or an interview, i mean anxiety out of the blue that seems to hit you when you can be in a warm pleasant atmosphere.......a feeling like you just have to get up and go.
sometimes its terrifying, hyperventillating, can't get your breath, feel like everything is closing in around you.
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anewme
Yes, Scooby. Three years ago I was working at a stressful job. I had recently been Dfd and subsequently divorced at the same time. My mind was so busy with that pain all of the time that small things could trigger great distress in me. I had to do some public sales through my work and I was not up to it. People were coming up to me in my face and plying me with questions regarding the work project. Suddenly I felt a lump in my throat, my eyes filled with tears, my vision started to tunnel and I saw people looking at me queerly, like what's up with her, and I just panicked and ran out of the building and into my car and drove home....without punching out. This was forgiven the first time by my boss.......but not the second time! I was fired from a good job for these two occurences. So yes, two times I have had this experience of total loss of control, of panic, of wanting to escape as fast as I can.
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assemlbly time passing tricks
by stopthepain inas a kid ,you could almost certainly kill time at an dc ,sad{as richie rich put it},or a the "2 day assembly" in many various ways.. this has probably been done before,but here we go.. 1--watch the audience as a whole,they almost lookm like ants or something,because thier was always people moving around.peole figiting,taking vigorous notes,people getting up and down for a walk,or a bathroom break,attendants barking at the teens to sit down.i used to find pleasur in watching everyon fidget as a group.. 2--watch the peole who where doing sign language for the deaf.i would always try to start matching words for signs.another way a 10 year old mind can wander.. 3--locate all friends of yours,chicks you have a bad witness boy crush on,obsess for a few hours,and how you can stalk the hot girls.. 4--what too eat{pre modern era}you know,lemon lime or cola shasta,apple or cheese danish,vanilla or chocalte swiss miss,hoagie or dri chicken w/mayo packet?????????
?descisions ,descisions!!!!!.
5---count each minute out in my head.there was a huge digital clock at the providence civic center.when the clock changed,i would try to count 60 seconds to an exact point the clock would change again.clock manipulation,a huge witness kid skill.you could will the cloock to move,or so you thought.. 6---think about what flavor slush i wanted at break,and wether i would buy the cheap binoculars,or the mini -fan.those toys would occupy my brain for hours.. 7---wait with baited breath for the drama.when those lights went down,,,,,,,,,,,sheer ecxtasy!!
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anewme
I couldnt get away with anything as a childless elder's wife. We just sat there "setting the stoic example for others". When I would start to doze he would elbow me to wake up. I took furious notes to keep awake.
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Witnesses Sell Stolen Furniture to Feed Circuit Overseer
by TMS ini'm nena, the wife of tms, who used to post in this forum.
i'm posting a letter i wrote to my younger sister yesterday.
i caught her and my one-year older sister selling my furniture at a garage sale.
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anewme
I am relatively new to the forum. And new to the horror stories. This behavoir by supposed Witnesses is shocking to me!!! How heartless! What a bunch of hillbillies! There was a better way to handle this. And to hear the elders are in no way interested in correcting your sisters is eye opening to me. I'm very sorry for you and your husband you have had such terrible treatment from your own relatives this way. To sue is an option maybe. To me, family are considered friends only when they behave like friends.
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Mom politely declines to answer my DC Q's
by chrissy inmy mother, a witness, is at her dc in cleveland this very moment as i type.
i spoke with her on the phone a few days ago as she was preparing to travel and so by coincidence the topic came up in conversation.
now, she doesnt know exactly why i stopped serving the tower, as we live along a dont ask, dont tell policy, and other than the fact that each and every time we talk there is a gigantic elephant on party-line with us, that otherwise works just swell.
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anewme
Enjoy conversing with your mom while you can.
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hello all - new here
by GoingGoingGone inhello everyone, this is my first post.... i'm in the process of fading after being a jw my entire life (almost).
i don't go to meetings anymore..... hubby's an elder, and boy, is he mad.
he still makes the kids go with him to meetings, service, etc... they hate it and i feel sorry for them, but there's not much i can do about it.. i've been feeling lonely today, i do miss my friends sometimes, and i have really good friends, but since i don't go to meetings i never see them much anymore.
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anewme
Hi GGG! Welcome to Friday night at the JWD Forum! Sorry you were feeling down today. Maybe you will lose JW friends, but you will gain JWD friends here. Hey my ex was an elder too. Maybe we can talk about that sometime. Anewme