Posts by coolhandluke

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Automatic Re-instatement?

by BritBoy in

does anyone out there know the answer this one.... .

ok, take for example the oral sex thread and the fact that the dubs reversed their thinking on this.

so, twenty years ago (within the marriage arrangements) blow job = disfellowshipping... now it's a "matter of conscience".

coolhandluke

it doesn't work like that. read CoC for more insight but nah, thats just not how they get down. you stepped ahead of jehovahs celestial pinto so no soup for you.

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Update on my story...

by ZeroKool29 in

i posted my story on here a couple of years ago, i'm sure if you look on my profile you can find links to those original threads.

suffice it to say alot has happened since that time.

i would like to say that i have been visiting this site daily looking for encouragement and fellowship but that hasn't been the case.

damn dude. you have been through it, but from what i can see you have a good lady who has your back and you do, really really do seem to be healing and growing and improving as a man. i give you such respect for that. continue what you are doing. your relationships if you live long enough will come full circle... they just will, believe that. everytime i see this in my life i am awed and amazed and almost willing to believe in god.

CHL

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thinkin of goin back

by searching4truth in

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i was df bout a year back and have since been enlightened by a life long friend.

i am leaning toward returning anyway but mostly for familyand friends.

i recognize the hypocrisy of this move but also don't feel that i should be subject to there authority and in my current state i am.

coolhandluke

Adios, sucker!

Thanks so much Bee. Your compassion just comes through so loud and clear. Wow, you're such an amazing woman. How I aspire to be like you when I get to be a big boy

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The labor of delayed gratification

by coolhandluke in

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the goal of a soldier is to properly serve his master until the date of his service has ended.

that date may be the end of war, the end of his promised time of servitude or his death.

it is no different in theocratic warfare.

coolhandluke

The goal of a soldier is to properly serve his master until the date of his service has ended. That date may be the end of war, the end of his promised time of servitude or his death. It is no different in Theocratic Warfare. We are promised that soon the date will come when all problems big and small will be solved. I ached for that date, not for the reward for myself but for all those around me. I just wanted it to come so desperately.
In times of war a soldier only needs the very basics. He will eat whatever he must, sleep wherever there is relative quiet or where there exist some semblance of safety. Most importantly he will fight until he is hamburger. This is what a soldier does. Some do it for feelings of higher good, others for the G.I. bill, still others for their patriotism, or maybe even to fulfill a family tradition. These are the same reasons we served the organization … mother.
The repercussions of living this life so long is an institutionalized nature. For so long things like credit or home ownership or what car I drove or my clothing choices or dating a woman just didn’t matter to me. Now I am out and struggling to pulling out all of this old programming. My problem is that when I identify root beliefs that are flawed the actions that these beliefs spawn have their tendrils parsed out among most facets of my life. Clearing them out is for lack of a word with greater gravity, difficult.
Of these problems are laziness, an inability to recognize how quickly time passes and a host of things which I have only recently been able to tag and identify. This is not a weep fest. This is my acknowledgment of something that I hope is a problem that has been faced before me. If it is then my hope is that it has been dealt with successfully. That hope will help sustain my effort to be the man that I want to be. Thoughts?

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thinkin of goin back

by searching4truth in

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friends

i was df bout a year back and have since been enlightened by a life long friend.

i am leaning toward returning anyway but mostly for familyand friends.

i recognize the hypocrisy of this move but also don't feel that i should be subject to there authority and in my current state i am.

coolhandluke

Crumpet wrote:

Jeez that explains everything - no wonder he wants to go back!

ohhhhh! beatings Crumpet, beatings! But then you'd enjoy that. Need some time for a suitable punishment for you.

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new resolution?

by searching4truth in

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any one no what the new resolution at this years dc is.

coolhandluke

http://www.box.net/public/pzqmcy50j5

listen to it in its entirety here if you can stand the boredom

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thinkin of goin back

by searching4truth in

jw
friends

i was df bout a year back and have since been enlightened by a life long friend.

i am leaning toward returning anyway but mostly for familyand friends.

i recognize the hypocrisy of this move but also don't feel that i should be subject to there authority and in my current state i am.

coolhandluke

i'm the life long friend. let me explain for my typing challenged friend here. Here is the deal. His ENTIRE family is in. I'm talking grandmother, grandfather, aunts, uncles, cousins. He is the all knowing all seeing all healing, put all of the future hopes and aspirations into this one person, prince of this family. For him to be out is a blow and a huge tarnish to an otherwise nearly blemish free family. In the small town that we grew up in everyone knew us. Never were we singular in mention. It was always Luke and S4. We were good boys and everyone respected us for being so spiritual. Who gives the best talks in this town? Well one part of the city would say him, the other would say me. We were constantly in field service, streetwork, etc. He even went to Bethel. The mark attached to his current existence is one of failure and it points back to his aging grandmother and grandfather. They are of the last few pillars of our entire area. I think he wants to go back to remove some of that tarnish and to get those that would listen to him out. I disagree with the idea but understand it. No one is going to hear him with that flashing red sign above his head reading "DF'd". Without that stigma, perhaps they'd hear him, even just a little bit. Just my .02.

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Welcome searching4truth

by coolhandluke in

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so at long last i've converted my childhood friend from being an apologist to being a near apostate.

lemme tell you how that happened.

this guy and i debate almost daily the virtues of being one of "jehovah's people.

coolhandluke

So at long last I've converted my childhood friend from being an apologist to being a near Apostate.

Lemme tell you how that happened. This guy and I debate almost daily the virtues of being one of "Jehovah's people." We have ripped the bible open left, right, up down...Examined Watchtowers and consulted every last person we have respected from the standpoint of "The Truth." So what did it for him? He says to me, "I'm going to get reinstated. But before I do I want you to do me a favor." "Yeah? What's that?" "To make sure that I am making the most informed decision, I want you to give me your best argument against the truth."

This guy is my childhood friend and closer to me than my blood brother. How do you refuse that? So I sent him Crisis of Conscience. We read it together, and then vomited together. So I told him about this site. He's an addict now, lurking. But he joined and just posted.

If you ask real nice like he might tell you some great homo errogenous tales of his stint at Bethel.

CHL

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