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  Do the GB REALLY get their "Food" from Jehovah?

  by gumby in

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  we were taught that the "faithful and discreet slave" are led/fed by jehovah/jesus/ spirit.

  think about it though for a minute.

  when the "writing dept.

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  "O yes I'm the Great Pretender!" is the GB's true song! They are sterile and are as connected to God as the green grass is.
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  The WTS Most Awesome Tool of Indoctrination?

  by watson in

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  2. experiences

  i say it's "examining the scriptures daily.

  " any thoughts on this?.

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  In my opinion the "most awesome tool of indoctrination" among the Witnesses is the fellowship.

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  Overheard at the June 4 2006 Watchtower Study

  by under_believer in

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  2. friends

  so, even back when i was a true believer i noticed this... .

  this watchtower study today, i just got back from, was all about how great the elders are.

  what always wigs me out about these things (because they trot this stuff out in a wt study every year or two) is how the elder conducting the study is up there talking about and praising the elders in the third person, saying how great they are, when he is an elder.

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  Hi Brant,

  I sympathize with you cause I too have met elders and circuit overseers who were slime. Maybe my experience in the Org. is unusual I don't know, but I have met more elders who were sincere than otherwise. Sure they were misled but for the most part they truly believed that what they did was for the good of the friends. Many worked hard and sacrificed time with their families to visit the sick or research a problem for an upcoming meeting or meet with publishers who were having serious problems.

  There's hypocrites and liars and there's downright slime in the elder bodies but there are also those who love and who really try to be the best elder/brother they can be. Sure they do the Watchtower's bidding but that's because they believe just as many of us truly believed. It does not make sense to think that Ray Franz and Barbara Anderson are the last man and woman in the Org. hierarchy who are honest and sincere.

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  Overheard at the June 4 2006 Watchtower Study

  by under_believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, even back when i was a true believer i noticed this... .

  this watchtower study today, i just got back from, was all about how great the elders are.

  what always wigs me out about these things (because they trot this stuff out in a wt study every year or two) is how the elder conducting the study is up there talking about and praising the elders in the third person, saying how great they are, when he is an elder.

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  There are still many "good" elders in the Org., men who love God and brother, just as there are many "good" brothers and sisters in the congregations. I think it's important to remember that.

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  Zealous Churches ... and the Lazy Watchtower

  by metatron in

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  to many, the notion that churches in "christendom" could be zealous - in contrast to the indifference of the watchtower society -.

  might seem radical.

  however, there is a recent, powerful example concerning marriage and divorce.. .

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  Marriage is tough no way around that. But money does not equate with a happy marriage. Also most who divorce are not Witnesses and most bad parents aren't Witnesses either. I'm not defending the Witnesses just trying to inject some objectivity here.

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  The Discoveries of Barbara Anderson - Eyewitness to Deceit

  by Dogpatch in

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  2. friends

  hey everyone!

  yesterday, may 15, 2006, gyldendal publishing company in copenhagen, denmark, published an expose' about the religion of jehovah's witnesses.

  the name of the new book is, "dommedag ma vente," or, in english, "judgment day must wait," written by poul bregninge of denmark.

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  Thank you, Barbara.

  Your love for the brotherhood comes through loud and clear. I deeply appreciated reading your account of life in Bethel. It provided the rare balanced view we sorely need. It was good to hear that there were brothers in positions of responsibility who were trying to make positive adjustments. So often the view here is one of negativity and to be sure there is much in the Watchtower to be negative about but the fact that there are some in positions of responsibility who do want change is a positive. It was so good to read about that because after all if the entire JW brotherhood is to be helped somehow it is through change and through those there who want that change.

  Peace to you,

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  Abraham

  by HelpWanted in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm new here and i had a question i was hoping you could help me with.

  why does james 2:21 say that abraham was justified by works and yet romans 4:2 says that he was justified by faith?

  also genesis 15:6 says he was justified by faith?

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  Hi HelpWanted,

  Welcome!

  Faith without works is dead, Abraham's faith was demonstrated by his works. Similar to a parent who says they love their child, that love is demonstrated by their actions. So too faith and works are coupled. Abraham had both faith and works.

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  What the heck do JWs find wrong with Mother's Day, Father's Day,

  by White Waves in

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  sweetest day????

  and, how did wedding anniversaries get to be ok and not birthdays???

  arghhh!

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  White Waves,

  The Watchtower loves to strain out the gnat and swallow the camel. They are obsessed with everything worldly but not everything hypocritical or shady.

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  Kiss my a$$ Granny!

  by ObservingTexan in

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  well...... now isn't that a catchy subject line.

  all this relates to the practice of shunning.

  you'll have to check my topic history to read up on my df'd friend dee.

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  Stephanus,

  Crap! A pack of smokes, a few different boyfriends and work in a bar hardly constitutes a profligate untamed lifestyle in this day and age. OT is exercising wisdom in letting her find and set her own limits after a repressed childhood and adolescence.

  A "repressed childhood and adolescence", as you put it, is just the circumstance that requires some good advice and guidance from a mature friend. As for the "crap" that is your opinion and I'll take it as such.

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  Kiss my a$$ Granny!

  by ObservingTexan in

  1. jw
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  well...... now isn't that a catchy subject line.

  all this relates to the practice of shunning.

  you'll have to check my topic history to read up on my df'd friend dee.

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  OT,

  If though, you assume that my NOT telling her what to do is a lack of guidance, then you are wrong.

  I did not say you should tell her what to do. If you're giving her the best advice you can then that's great.

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