thirdwitness -- an agent of the governing body?
this evening i was talking with an old friend about recent postings on this forum by jw defenders.
we concluded that something unusual is going on.
I am sure they will survive without some Messianic figure in Denver to lead them to the promised land.
What?! Isn't this the Promised Land? And aren't Alan, Farkel, and company, our "present truth" Joshua's?
My god! another eye opening post!
Thanks HS!
IW
or is it just the case that people make mistakes.
some little, some big.
if the punishment for 'sin' is old age & death then are the animals sinners?
Genesis chapter one said God declared his creative works "good", that does not necessarily mean perfect as man defines "perfect". imo.
It suited the intended purpose, God's purpose.
I'm glad you brought this topic up it's an interesting one.
IW
thirdwitness -- an agent of the governing body?
this evening i was talking with an old friend about recent postings on this forum by jw defenders.
we concluded that something unusual is going on.
The next time you think to criticize others, make sure you correctly understand their position prior to making a public attempt. Otherwise, you come off seeming foolish.
Excellent advice. It would have been great if you, AuldSoul, and AlanF would have followed your advice. Your suppositions suffer proof something Alan relentlessly insists upon when he calls others to task for their accusations, positions and opinions.
But now suddenly, innuendo and unproven allegations are just dandy because it's the exJWs doing it? To be sure there is more to this than meets the eye but it's not so much about 3rd Witness as it is about WHY this thread was even started in the first place.
IW
watchtower camaraderie
after having spent years as one of jehovah's witnesses.
the next day?going back to the organization .
Can anyone, give me advice regarding getting my life
back to normal outside of the"Watchtower World."
First, I would suggest take it slow don't rush into anything. There is no "normal" Wanderer. What you thought was normal was the Watchtower's "normal." Out in the world there are a myriad of "normals", what we have to do is find our own normal. That takes time and it takes patience. Take it one day at a time and don't quickly trade the Watchtower's coat for someone's elses. Being alone for a time is hard but it also frees us. It gives us time to seek out ourselves and what we truly believe and want.
Second, just as we have learned to question the Watchtower we should also put to the test every other so called "authority" who claims to have the "truth" about something whether that truth is religious or anti-religious. JWs have not cornered the market on "followers of followers" that is a human trait that is alive and well among all mankind. Neither JWs, nor exJWs, nor politicians, nor the religious, nor the anti-religious, nor scientists etc. are immune from group think and herding. Try to find some balance and perspective, examine both sides of every issue.
Third, read, read, read, about anything and everything that interests you. Also search out a local group of people who are involved in something worthwhile in your community such as helping the poor or protecting the environment or anything you feel is important and positive. You might be surprised how easy it is to find friends among people who are working to do good in their community. Keep to positive pursuits in your life!
Fourth, it is said that when one loses a mate in death they should give themselves at least a year or more before making any life changing decisions, it's the same with leaving the JWs it too is a death of sorts. This is a time to grow, give yourself that time and don't add to your troubles by making wrong choices just to avoid the loneliness in your life.
Hoping all the best for you,
IW
my wife, who is studying midwifery, has just finished watching an episode of maternity ward wherein a dub by the name of yvette thompson was having a caesarean due to fibroids among other things.
she told the doctor she wouldn't have a transfusion because of being a jw.
her 'fiance' said he disagreed with her stand but he would intervene if need be.
What's the likelihood she was D/F lickety-split for this rebellious act?
That would depend on several factors such as the brand of elders in her congregation and if she claims repentance. If she has hard-nosed elders she is likely fried but if she has moderate/well meaning elders she may get off if, in their opinion, she is "genuinely" repentant.
Another factor of course would be her own personality and personal history in the congregation.
jmo,
IW
anyone else while being a jw find it awful to be referred to as "sheep"?
i've always thought being called sheep was negative, as in - they are all a bunch of sheep!
i guess i was born stubborn goat, thank the gods!.
If taken as Jesus meant the word "sheep" to be taken I find no objection with that word or the word "slave."
Jesus was the shepherd of the sheep. It was an analogy.
IW
i thought these comments on channel c were fair views of fred franz' translation, not to mention a little surprising.
a breath of fresh air.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main&mode=current&message=21782.
HS,
Try sitting in an elders meeting while using the New International Version and this is what you will see : .
Lol, I agree!
IW
i thought these comments on channel c were fair views of fred franz' translation, not to mention a little surprising.
a breath of fresh air.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main&mode=current&message=21782.
I think it's good to look at things from both sides or if possible all sides. The NWT is biased but it is not a rag. The truth of things is rarely black and white. I was happy to read a fair assessment of Fred Franz' abilities to translate the Bible but of course that in itself does not make the NWT a good translation it does show, though, that Persson and Penton are being fair and truthful. Not a bad thing, imo.
IW
i thought these comments on channel c were fair views of fred franz' translation, not to mention a little surprising.
a breath of fresh air.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main&mode=current&message=21782.
I thought these comments on Channel C were fair views of Fred Franz' translation, not to mention a little surprising.
A breath of fresh air.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=Main&mode=Current&message=21782
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=Main&mode=Current&message=21785
thirdwitness -- an agent of the governing body?
this evening i was talking with an old friend about recent postings on this forum by jw defenders.
we concluded that something unusual is going on.
Apparently the GB sent their "agent" to H2O first. Guess JWD is not the No.1 enemy of the GB afterall.
http://www.aimoo.com/forum/postview.cfm?id=311102&CategoryID=2967&startcat=301&ThreadID=2461224
