i'm sure many of you have already done this but i encourage everyone to send thanks to dateline.. here's the address .
* dateline@nbc.com.
they need lots on input on this and maybe just maybe, they will do a follow up if there is enough interest shown.. there is so much more the world needs to know about jws.. .
I know the Jw's are not staying quiet about this show that they view as an attack and are surly drowning Dateline in emails so we need to give our input to balance it all out.
I was reading the silentlambs guest book this morning and the JWs are angry and hateful.It would be interesting to see some of the emails they get from JWs.
They don't realize it but their heartless reaction to these victims and the wistleblowers speaks volumes about who they really are.
ChiChi
why did dateline delay airing?.
to give the wt six months to show proof that they are tough on molesters.
yet, after six months, they came up with only two cases.
It is obvious that Dateline went out of their way to be fair and give WT a chance to redeem themselves in the public eye.
ChiChi
i'm sure many of you have already done this but i encourage everyone to send thanks to dateline.. here's the address .
* dateline@nbc.com.
they need lots on input on this and maybe just maybe, they will do a follow up if there is enough interest shown.. there is so much more the world needs to know about jws.. .
I'm sure many of you have already done this but I encourage everyone to send thanks to Dateline.
Here's the address
They need lots on input on this and maybe just maybe, they will do a follow up if there is enough interest shown.
There is so much more the world needs to know about JWs.
ChiChi
a person has to be a bit nieve to think that if the wt suddenly gave into all of the demands of silentlambs that silentlambs would somehow cease to exist and or let up their pressure on the society.. i think there is a broader agenda here, one that includes a measure of revenge against the wt and one that won't stop until they are out of business.
no child is truely protected or safe when they are raised in a cult.
a logical extention of silentlambs would be expanding their agenda to include the blood issue and children.. it is this obvious broader agenda the silentlambs group has that invites criticism from active witnesses.
I was just thinking about how emotional we all are right now.
Why don't we all just leave this thread to die and enjoy the day and look foward to Dateline.
We accompolish nothing by hurling accusations and inuindo.
Please.
ChiChi
a person has to be a bit nieve to think that if the wt suddenly gave into all of the demands of silentlambs that silentlambs would somehow cease to exist and or let up their pressure on the society.. i think there is a broader agenda here, one that includes a measure of revenge against the wt and one that won't stop until they are out of business.
no child is truely protected or safe when they are raised in a cult.
a logical extention of silentlambs would be expanding their agenda to include the blood issue and children.. it is this obvious broader agenda the silentlambs group has that invites criticism from active witnesses.
Angry,
Maybe this is the reason to your question on the lawsuit.
silentlambs. This is found at * http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=28683&site=3
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Since: Feb 5, 2001 Re: RODRIGUEZ LAWSUIT AGAINST WTS DISMISSED LAS... May 28, 2002 10:53
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The case continues, it has already been refiled. Mr. Anderson assured me there is no way the case will not go forward.
silentlambs
As for your one on the length of the show.He has never said anywhere that I am aware of that the show would definatly be one hr long.You assumed.
ChiChi
i think the best way to get the dubs to watch dateline is to tell them not to :) dont people just love to do things they are told not to...i know i do :).
the following is a sample conversation that i might have with my mom.. "hello...mom?
hi...this is your son...you too (k)...hey i just wanted to let you know that dateline is airing a piece on jehovah's witnesses tonight...yeah i'm sure you dont want to watch it...you really need to listen to the organization because they know what is best for you...uh huh...no...no i probably shouldnt tell you what it is about...nahh, i dont want it to hurt your faith mom...yeah...uh huh...say, is it time for the nurse to bring your meds yet?....how is the food?...ok, i understand...yes mom...group therapy is important...just listen to them ok?...love you ...bye.. lizard
I called my parents and got their answering machine.
I said "Hi mom and dad,this is ......,you may already know this but Dateline will be showing Tuesday night at 7:00" All the sudden I hear my moms voice loudly and hatefully say "WE ARE NOT INTERESTED,THANK YOU"
I just hung up because she was out of control, as usual.
She sounded like a mean householder out in service.
ChiChi
a person has to be a bit nieve to think that if the wt suddenly gave into all of the demands of silentlambs that silentlambs would somehow cease to exist and or let up their pressure on the society.. i think there is a broader agenda here, one that includes a measure of revenge against the wt and one that won't stop until they are out of business.
no child is truely protected or safe when they are raised in a cult.
a logical extention of silentlambs would be expanding their agenda to include the blood issue and children.. it is this obvious broader agenda the silentlambs group has that invites criticism from active witnesses.
Path,
I just have a few things to say about what you have said here.
The first being that I am glad you used the word "we" when you wrote these words.
At least you included yourself in what you are saying.Otherwise I would want to jump through my computer and ring your neck!
You must understand that the circumstances made it impossible for Silentlambs and group to be free of these types of accusations.
If you really think about it, the only way that Silentlambs and the rest of the group could possibly be completly free of such accusations of having a mixed aganda is if they had never been JWs or connected to them in any way.
But then you would run into another problem,
No one that's not emotionally connected and understands what's really going on here with this issue would have ever lifted a little finger to help these victims!
We are doing the best we can do under the circumstances and we have to continue doing what we know is right no matter what people accuse us of.There was no way to have a completly unbiased group doing this work.
And one more thing that I want you to remember is that it is wrong of you or anyone else to judge an entire group's motives as being the same. We are individuls each with our personal feelings and agendas.You can't read minds.
I know there are some who are angry and may fantasize about the downfall of the WT but if you took the time to find out why you would realize their feelings are legitimate.
You seem to want to ignore the pain and suffering many have been through and expect perfection and want to act like they are wrong for feeling the way they do.They have a right to their personal feelings.
Some would be appeased at a change in WT policy and I am sure others decide to take it farther.Silentlambs has no control over this.
SO what?It does not change the cold hard facts in this issue.
One more thing.Silentlambs is a supportgroup for victims.Even if WT changes it's policy the need for this group is still there.The victims don't dissapear if policy changes.These people still need help.
I think you need to try to understand what silentlambs is all about.It's not just about changing Wt policy.
ChiChi
..usa... a witness just told me that witnesses always hand over a molester to the cops.
he also told me i was full of crap whenever i told him that elders call the legal dept.
first to find out whether or not the state is a reporting state.. could anyone with the resources please point me to the boe letter or other resource that indicates that elders should contact the legal dept.
Go to the silentlambs web site and click on WT letters.
You will find the BOE letters on WT policy on child abuse letters there.
ChiChi
after two years out, and that after 25 years in...my mother in law announced out of the blue that she is making an effort to rejoin the jws.
im sure the only reason she is joining them is to get her estranged jw elder husband back, and her two jw kids and grandkids.
i cant believe that a "christian" religion would force its members to prostitute themselves this way just to have their family.. they suck!!
XLoves,
I am sorry to hear about this.
I remember feeling like you when my father went back to Jw's after being out for at least a year.
I was sick about it and felt so helpless and out of control.He was not honest with me about his feelings and intentions.He told me what I wanted to hear untill right before he went back.
One consolation, at least from what many have told me is that they usually feel let down the second time around because things just aren't the same or like they think they will be.
ChiChi
http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/ny-nywit262720487may26.story.
expelled for talking.
couple alleged abuse among jehovah's witnesses.
The conflict is because not everyone in the press was updated on the Pandellos status before their stories ran. They just reported what they were told at the time of their interviews.
ChiChi