Very interesting Metatron, thank you for the info.
IC
rebirth, as opposed to reincarnation, is a fascinating topic and the following two stories have been taken from the tibetan book of living and dying by sogyal rinpoche (available from amazon books).
the second story, that of a child, came to the attention of the dalai lama and he sent a special representative to interview her and verify the story.
there have been many other rebirth stories published and the subject holds a special fascination for me.
Very interesting Metatron, thank you for the info.
IC
rebirth, as opposed to reincarnation, is a fascinating topic and the following two stories have been taken from the tibetan book of living and dying by sogyal rinpoche (available from amazon books).
the second story, that of a child, came to the attention of the dalai lama and he sent a special representative to interview her and verify the story.
there have been many other rebirth stories published and the subject holds a special fascination for me.
Ian , I hope you are doing well, thank you for sharing that. I too believe in rebirth, I had not specified that before, calling it reincarnation, but in fact it is rebirth I believe in. I have been reading stories like this, and have come to the conclusion that there is something to this, it would be impossible for these children to have all these memories any other way. There is so much that we can now find out about, now that religion no longer blinds us.
Take care Ian,
IC
.
hello to all i am new here, well as a member anyway, i have been browsing the posts now and then for a good 4 years!
thought id thank you all for your help since i left, i think that there are so many of us that you have all helped and never hear from.. all of my family are still in the org and i could not have gotten through the initial couple of years of leaving without the support that i have found here, even if it did not involve direct communication with you all.. thank you!
WELCOME Sassia , I hope you enjoy your stay!
IC
i am "wasblind" from pathways and e-watchman.
i chose another name here in case it wasn't the right place.
also, i have recognized a few of you.. i would post my story, but i've moved past it---for the most part.
Hi Dinah, I remember you, I too was on those boards, but have since moved on, I just got tired of the "This is still Jehovah's Organization but he is going to clean it up stuff" I no longer buy that. So I came here where I can truly speak my mind and there is great association with free thinkers like me.
WELCOME , I know you're gonna love it here!
IC
hello friends, i would like to hear some stories of becoming anointed.
i have been for 5 years now.. been a christian for 26 years.
i dropped out of the watchtower in september and am learning in leaps and bounds since i left with my new eyes.
This year since I started doing my research into the JW religion, I experienced something that made me a little confused, it was truly a beautiful experience being enveloped in love and just feeling like you are very in tune with your spiritual self, Jehovah and Christ, but as I continued my research I discovered it was only an emotional reaction, triggered by my mind and how I felt about the things I was reading in the bible. As my research moved forward and I began researching the actual bible I came to realize that the New Testament was put together by people pushing a political agenda to unite and empower the Roman Government.
I came to understand that books like Matthew, John, and others in the NT were anonymous works, given these names by the Priests that put it together. The same goes for the Old Testament, Moses did not write the books of Genesis, Exodus, Deuteronomy and Job as they would have us believe, I researched as most here have heard before, Ancient civilizations like the Sumerians who wrote things that later were adopted by the Hebrews and put into the book of Job, the Noah story the Proverbs, I was truly disgusted, although everyone back then did this, they all adopted each others myths, gods and such and just renamed them and changed them aroung a bit.
So no I don't believe anyone is annointed, some people are just more in tune with their spiritual side, others suffer from Dementia or Schizofrenia and confuse the symptoms with being annointed, but hey, everyone is free to think whatever they like, I for one have been freed from believing the stories and myths from some ancient book that has caused the death of countless people and stopped so many from reaching their full potential. I believe in God the Creator and my bible is the Creation around me, it cannot lie or be misinterpreted, or mistranslated or used to push an agenda, I see it as a living testament to the Creator.
IC
from debbie:http://www.kent.steinhaug.no/forum/showthread.php?s=851bfcc227b752640009930ef93d3eee&threadid=4067 http://www.nyc.gov/lobbyistsearch/s...ephen+lefkowitz.
one new york plaza.
ny, ny 10004.
I think it means they ARE NOT RELYING ON JEHOVAH'S HELP, TO FURTHER THEIR KINGDOM REAL ESTATE INTERESTS! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, O YEAH, BUT THEY ARE JEHOVAH'S CHOSEN PEOPLE HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA, RIGHT.........
WHAT HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!
IC
.
.
click on the picture to enlarge it.
All you have to do is put up a sign that says:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES please knock on my door, I have information that shows your RELIGION IS A SHAM and I'de like to share it with you
IC
I think I'm going to invent an official WTS literature incinerator, it will be metal, about 4 ft. tall (you need alot of available space, cause there's so much damn literature to burn) it would have a lid that would be easy to open, so you can easily dump in, the occasional tracts and magazines that you find folded up here and there under couches and so forth, there would be a compartment for wood on the bottom, as it is ecologically freindly, and then you light that baby up preferably in winter and gather around it with some hot chocolate and put that literature to some good use!
Heck, you could have a "literature burn in" that would be when you get some of the freinds that have also opened their eyes about the Borg and they can bring their "Literature" "Trash" and you all can gather around the fire and exchange stories about how many people you have helped out of the Borg, and other entertaining stuff. WHO KNOWS, I JUST MIGHT DO IT!
IC
saviour#1 who was born dec. 25th of a virgin mother, called a saviour and the only-begotten son, died to save mankid, crucified on black fridy, his blood spilled to redeem the earth, suffering death with nails and stakes, the father and son combined in the earthly body, put in a tomb, went down into the underworld and 3 days later his body disappears from the tomb and he was resurrected as the most high god whose body symbolized by bread and was eaten by his followers?
saviour#2 who was born of a virgin mother on dec. 25th and his father was a carpenter, a star marked his birthplace and angels and shepherds were attending, the ruler slaughtered infants in order to kill him, but he survived to heal the sick, lepers, blind and deaf, dying about the age of 30 being crucified on a tree, portrayed on a cross, rose from the dead, considered the saviour, followers knew him as jezeus (which means pure essence) and it is said he will return on a white horse to judge the dead and fight the prince of evil?
saviour#3 who was born to a virgin mother on dec 25th, put in a manger in swadling clothes, became a traveling teacher performing miracles, turning water into wine, rode in triumph on an ass, became known as the lamb of god, god of the vine, god of gods, king of kings, only begotten son, bearer of sins, redeemer, anointed one (christos), alpha and omega, hung and crucified on a tree and rose from the dead on mar.
Is the Bible Jesus real or a mystical conglomeration of all the Saviours worshipped for thousands of years by millions of people?
Answer - He is a mystical conglomeration of all the Saviours worshipped for thousands of years by millions of people.
IC
jw's now have the january awake!
in hand.
notice that there is no specific date, for the awake!
Oh no, YET ANOTHER ARTICLE ABOUT "WHAT THE FUTURE WILL BRING" it just goes to show, that the WTS can only REGURGITATE the same MINDNUMBING CRAP, OVER and OVER, WHAT A WASTE OF PAPER, THE POOR TREES, WASTED ON THIS STUPIDITY!!!!
AAARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!! I'm so glad I don't read them anymore, I wish there was a way to actually put these to good use.
IC (of the It may be monthly now, but I still ain't reading it class)