Posts by ICBehindtheCurtain

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Bizarre November 2006 KM

by yakata in

the insert is called "how do i view blood fractions and medical procedures involving my own blood?

" i will attempt to transcribe the more salient points for everyone here.. paragraph 1 (verbatim): the bible commands christians to "abstain ... from blood.

" (acts 15:20) thus, jehovah's witnesses do not accept transfusions of whole blood or the four primary components of blood-namely, red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets, and plasma.

ICBehindtheCurtain

YOU LURKERS LISTEN, IF YOU BUY BEEF OR GO TO A RESTAURANT AND ENJOY A GOOD STEAK, YOU HAVE EATEN BLOOD!

AND DOES THE WTS WARN YOU NOT TO EAT THIS? I THINK NOT, SINCE THEY DO THIS THEMSELVES!

THE JEWS THEMSELVES WHO THIS LAW WAS REALLY WRITTEN FOR, AND YOU ALL ARE NOT JEWS, ACCEPT BLOOD

TRANSFUSIONS, THIS SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING!

This policy is just stoooooopid, just another way to get the poor R & F so confused that they would just rather not accept blood at all, than try to figure all that sh*t out, and this is what the WTS really wants, more martyrs to use as examples to the other R&F, while keeping themselves from being sued for abandoning this Crap teaching.

IC

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Why did you choose the Alias that you did?

by The wanderer in

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why did you choose the alias that you did?

being curious about why people do or act the way they.

do led me to this discussion.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Well, mine is pretty self explanatory....When I began finding out the truth about the WTS I felt like Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz, when she saw who Oz really was, just a silly old man behind the curtain instilling fear and obedience from the people, I began seeing the GB in that same way. They are really like this silly old man, not annointed or anything, they live in that ivory tower alienated from the real world trying to push their laws and regulations on everyone and demanding obedience, but I see who they are now, I see behind the curtain.

IC

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But what if they're right............still the Truth?

by ScoobySnax in

this will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.

it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.

i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Hi and welcome Youngone , don't be too quick to judge us here, yes there may be some that are bitter, but can you really judge them if you don't know their story? As someone else said, please read some of the info on this site so you can get a better idea of what the real issues are. Things are not as they seem, I know it's strange, I was where you are now, not too long ago. It seems to you that JW's are happier people and that if you leave the organization there is no hope for happiness, well that is what has been pounded into our brain for how many years? But, that is not true. I have seen many people that were suffering from a variety of stress related diseases like fibromyalgia, depression etc., and once they learned the truth about "The Truth" their health improved dramatically, and they no longer need medication.

I am currently a fader, my family and I still go once in a blue moon, but after about a year and a half of exhaustive research I no longer believe in what the WTS teaches, I no longer believe in religion in general, I am free from all these superstitions and useless beliefs. My family and I have never been happier and more at peace, and those we have helped out are now completely different people living happy and productive lives, no longer wasting their time believing that this system is going to end, and that they shouldn't pursue a higher education etc. We live moral lives, none of us has left our spouses, we are truly happy. I believe in a creator, but not the god of the bible, that stuff was all made up.

IC

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Do the dubs know WHY there delivering Kingdom News 37?

by truthseeker in

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i just got my copy of the sep km.

there's an article, about 6 paragraphs inside about the "false religions end is near" campaign.. i was surprised that the first paragraoh didn't even tell the dubs why they were doing this campaign.

they left the explanation to a couple of vague sentences in the last paragraph about how false religion's end is near.. it seems that the dubs don't know why they're doing this, only that they have to do it and place their 50 copies.. odd..

ICBehindtheCurtain

The JW's don't need to know anything, they just receive the order from "Mother" and follow it through. Many though will probably just dump them and pick a number to report. The BS of the end is near is getting so damn old already, when will people realize that the stuff that is written in the bible about the end referred to the end of that particular system which happened in 70 AD? WAKE UP PEOPLE, do some research on history and how many times christians have thought the "the end was nigh" it has happened many times before, read about the plague for example or the many wars and genocides that happened hundreds of years ago, there is no difference, only that now we have alot more people on earth and the media to tell us about any little disaster that happens anywhere, and this is just feeding the monster of "The End is Near" mentality.

A book that I highly recommend is "End-Time Visions, The Road to Armaggedon?" by Richard Abanes, that book helped me see that this belief is not based on reality, just a slogan to scare the flock into submission.

IC

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have fun editing this jaracz picture

by What-A-Coincidence in

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so what do you think he is scheming by his looks?.

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"i will choke every single apostate on jwd if that is the last thing i do" - teddy jackarse.. .

ICBehindtheCurtain

ahahahahahahaha, you guys are crazy, I especially love the one of him as an honorary catholic!

IC

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The God Delusion

by Peppermint in

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old dawkins is on the rampage again.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/5372458.stm.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Hey that sounds like a very interesting book, he makes a whole lot of sense, I gotta get it! thanks.

IC

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WORLD PEACE TO BREAK OUT ANY SECOND NOW!

by badboy in

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my care had an interesting conversion with 2 male jws.. they said that world peace(or should that be armageddon?

) will happen any second soon, so they were desperately knocking on people doors to convert them!.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Well if they are saying that the End is so freaking close, just seconds away now, when next summer rolls around and nothing happens, will all the JW's be free to go since it will again have been BS? Sadly I don't think so, they will spin it, and spin it again, and these seriously brainwashed people will keep believing all the spiritual trash the WTS throws their way. I wish there was a way to open these people eyes so they can see how they are being taken advantage of, but sadly only a few of them will see the truth about "The Truth".

IC

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What is God???

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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is god just a ball of energy hanging around?.

is god a spirit person as the jw's suggest?.

ok, so i realize that there are a large number of atheists here, of which group i am ever so slowly counting myself among, who would love to shout down the topic with 'there is no god".

ICBehindtheCurtain

Interesting views everyone, Jaguarbass as time goes on I am leaning more in your same direction. I've at times wondered if when we pray, we are really praying to our higher self. I believe in a higher being, or conciousness I just call it the Creator, I don't think it is supposed to interact with us in the state we are currently in, nor do I think that he/she/it really cares what happens here on earth, these I believe are just things we experience while in our current bodies, but once we die, we go back to where we came from, and then we can decide what other experience we want to go through, I think that what happens here on earth does not affect who we really are, maybe just what we will experience next. Ultimately it really doesn't matter, because when we pass on to the other realm, all our questions will be answered.

IC

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Why are the world's anointed not called to Brooklyn to be Governing Body?

by free2beme in

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when i was in the witnesses, and near the end of my time in.

there was the whole new understanding, of putting non-anointed people in positions in the organization that were normally something an anointed person would be in.

i remember them mentioning that the amount of anointed was dwindling and there needed to be people in these positions of responsibility, to make sure the work continues.. after this was highlighted and all good witnesses swallowed this thinking hook line and sinker.

ICBehindtheCurtain

What I have learned in the course of my unbrainwashing is that....there are no annointed. This is just a made up thing, to be able to govern the flock. If you do research on the first president of the WTS Rutherford a supposed annointed and drunkard Rutherford another supposed annointed you realize that this is all bunk, these guys did things that were very questionable to say the least. I believe that some people convince themselves that they are annointed (whatever that really means), maybe they go into some kind of trance where they feel weird stuff, but more than likely they have mental issues, I have known a few where this was definitely the case.

The fact that the GB doesn't give a damn what any of them has to say all the while teaching that these people are the ones handling the spiritual food given to the R & F, is a clear sign that they themselves know this is BS, I mean come on, what are the chances that Freddie Franz was of the annointed and somehow his nephew Ray (whom I do admire) eventually happens to be annointed too.

At one point of my awakening after I was convinced that the WTS was wrong, I believed that the evil slave was leading them and that Jehovah would clear it up, back when I would post on ewatchman this is what he believes, I began researching different translations of the bible and bought an NIV bible, wow, I was blown away at what a difference a good translation makes, at one point I started seeing how the WTS has undermined Jesus's role in the religion, how everything is only about Jehovah, my appreciation for Jesus and his sacrifice grew so much, that out of the blue I said "Jesus I accept you into my heart" what happened next really was amazing, I felt overcome with love, I had goosebumps and just felt an incredible feeling" I was confused to say the least, I started believing that we all go to heaven, just from reading the bible because this is what is appears to say, in Romans.

Well, if an active JW would have had a similar experience I can see how they would believe they were annointed. I don't want to hijack this thread, but feel I need to explain what happened next... I later realized that I made that happen myself, I believed in something so strongly that those feelings just welled up in me. When I kept moving on in my journey I studied the bible with the Hebrew lexicon, and a bible computer program that shows the original hebrew words and their english translation, I was amazed at what a farce it all was, I found many error, contradictions and utter nonsense, and I thought how could this be the word of God? To make a long story short, I no longer believe that the bible is the inerrant word of god, it's just a mix of myths, stories, wisdom literature and some history, today you can clearly see where the Hebrews got some of these stories and such from sometimes almost word for word, it's amazing really that so many people have believed this stuff. Anyway, I'lle stop here, that stuff is for another post. Soooo.......basically I believe the worlds "annointed" are not called to Brooklyn to be GB members, because the GB know they made the stuff up and don't want anyone taking the control from them.

IC

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omg i am totally floored

by akafreelife in

i have been hearing about a secret socioty called the illuminati.

i started seeing some connections on my own between illuminati and what i heard when i was at the meetings when i was younger.

holy shite they are directly connected.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Kaput, I noticed the purple triangle is one of the symbols you posted, interesting!

IC