Beautiful, just Beautiful Es....You look radiant, I hope your married life is full of joy and happiness CONGRATS!
IC
Beautiful, just Beautiful Es....You look radiant, I hope your married life is full of joy and happiness CONGRATS!
IC
could the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?
the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.
for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.
You have access to the greatest Bible translation ever made available to mankind, truly a gift from God, so then use the splendid NWT and you will become truly wise.
BUUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Scholar surely, you're just saying that right? You do know that good ole Freddy was the writing committee and translator although he barely knew Hebrew.
IC (of the Scholar can't be for real class)
if it has already been discussed please refer me to the link; i looked but did not see one.. my mom & sister came down to see me and my family for thanksgiving a few days to have turkey and dressing.
they haven't been down in 3 - 4 years; but due to the new addition to my immediate family - my first grandbaby - they had an excuse to come.
i called them before they began their trip and mom was tired because they had just returned from a one day assembly in houston and now she had to pack to get ready to leave again and drive the 12 hours to my house.
Gopher - LMAO - that was really funny, but you know what's sad? that you are so RIGHT!
IC
i want you to know that you have destroyed a family because of your lies about jehovah and his organization.
a family member went apostate and has turned his back on jehovah.
he told us he is never coming back and i know he went and visited internet sites.
I know it is a difficult time for you and your family, but how do you know that what he saw were lies? What makes you so certain that everything we say here is lies about Jehovah and his Organization if you have never bothered to investigate it? Do you honestly think someone would risk losing all their family and freinds for unsubstantiated lies? This is very unlikely.
So called apostates do not ruin families, the Watchtower Society ruins families, the truth does not fear investigation, the reason you and all the other JW's are forbidden from reading material that disagrees with the Society is because they know if you did you would find out the truth about things. If the truth the Society teaches can not hold up under scrutiny then it is not the truth!
IC
That song always makes my eyes tear, it's really beautifull, what a world that would be, no religion to make people hate each other, and make one group think they are gods chosen, over another group.
John Lennons world is one that I'de like to live in, if that was possible.
IC (of the John Lennons paradise is better than the WTS class)
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i'll start.
coke a cola
It is all such a man made fantasy, the WTS pictures of paradise are such BS, they show houses with all the modern conveniences of asphalt roofs, stucco, etc, well where are they going to get these from? if all of this will have been destroyed, and if lets say in their fantasy world some of these manufacturing plants survived intact, who is going to work there? I assure you no JW alive today plans on going to a regular job in the new system, so it aint happening.
Not that I buy any of this earthly paradise BS, but it would be more believable if the houses they pictured were more like the homes the early settlers had, made from logs, or maybe mud huts in tropical areas, things that do not require manufactured items, horse drawn carriages, assuming horses survive the big A, but then if they showed what it would REALLY be like if the big A, happened as they have been teaching all these years, it would not be a pretty picture.
There would be no beautiful garden like scenes like they show, the world would be a ugly, stinky, muddy mess, if they showed it that way no one would want to be there and go thru all of that, so like the good sales people they are, they show everyone the cleaned up, surreal paradise, that everyone would like to be in, THE CARROT THEY DANGLE IS QUITE DESIRABLE, UNTIL YOU GET CLOSE AND SEE IT'S ONLY PLASTIC !
How very sad, my mom has in the past described to me how her home in the new system would look in great detail, she has actually sat there and designed this, drawn it out and all, this was after a talk was given that encouraged doing this, so it would be more real, and faith building. Yeah, keep that false dream alive and keep slaving for the WTS, she is a regular pioneer and thinks this life is not to be enjoyed because the REAL life begins after the big A. My poor delusional Mom, what to do? At this point let her live with that dream, she is in her late sixties, and has wasted her life in this CRAP, what does she have now? She lives alone, is divorced from her JW cheating spouse. I just hope she can at least find some nice pioneer brother to keep her company so she will at least enjoy some happiness before she goes.
IC (of the this Eartly Paradise CARROT, really pisses me off class)
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i wonder what the jw's think about other religions around the world that are persecuted because of jesus's name..... they aren't the only ones being persecuted.
Exactly, while speaking to a family member on this matter he actually told me "there is no other group being persecuted like the JW's are, that shows that Satan is attacking Jehovah's people, because he knows the end is near", he was a bit perplexed when I informed him that other christian groups have been and are currently being persecuted for preaching, of course after his brain tossed it a bit he came back with, "ok well, but they are not preaching the "Truth"", sadly the majority of these people don't think outside the JW box, they live in a self created delusion.
IC
it is with little or no regret that i have found it necessary to disfellowship the watchtower bible and tract society in order to protect my good name.
after unrepentantly fornicating with the scarlet coloured wild beast for 10 years and having been exposed by a worldly organization, i have not been able to find any note of contrition or shame.plenty of time has been allowed for an apology but nothing has been forthcoming.indeed, minimising the sin indicates a haughty attitude.
i,for my part,will forever be ashamed of my association with wtbs.i apologise to bible students i've had and the fear i have displayed in saying nothing for 24 years.
Welcom BigMouth, I liked you post, short and to the point, and oh so right! They have indeed, qualified for a DFing by their own standards, how do you think it will be taken if one of us heads an organization and applies for NGO membership? Yes, we would be so DF'd! Welcome, I hope you enjoy it here as much as we all do.
IC
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just want to know if it is normal practice for the elder giving your wedding talk to ask you and your partner if youve had sex, about 1 week before youre due to get married?.
happened to us, and we were f'in shocked!.
We were also asked, but I know there must be alot of couples that when asked just said no, and proceded to have their nice little wedding, although they had already endulged.
IC
haven't been on in awhile.
kind of need to disconnect every now and then.
me and itis met our first jwd fellow apostate today!
((((((((((((GGG)))))))))))) I hope everything works out, you will be in my thoughts and prayers!
IC