did any of you stuggle for have good conversations with the friends, before and after meetings?
i know i did.. by meaningful conversations, i mean in-depth discussions about events, news, beliefs.
it seems that jw's .
Why is it so hard?
In addition to the holier-than-thou comments ("Oh, I'm so busy with service and studying, I don't have time for..."), there's also the fact that in many places, whatever you say will get back to you at some point - probably significantly modified from the original. I don't think half the people at the Halls I've been to would have any conversation if it weren't for gossip and betrayed confidences.
i realize this is totally context and culturally dependent, but the old toronto jw youth scene was quite wild during the years 1984-1994. .
one example, a group of about 40 jw kids would go up to a ski resort (usually mount st.louis/moonstone or blue mountain) over the x-mas week-end.
one year we rented out a block of rooms in a resort close to the ski lodge.
Well, there wasn't any alcohol involved, but the kids and the music were so loud, there were punks on the street trying to come in and crash it. I was so ashamed when the teenage "host" went outside and tried to turn the guys away by telling them it was a JW party. You could hear the noise all the way down the block.
i am thinking of doing this at the place where i have my daily brew.
just a simple coming together of those who wish to read a chapter or two of the bible once a week with a little discussion - completely non-denom of course - .
anyone have suggestions on how to go about this - have you done it or something similar?
Ros shut things down for a while, leaving only a select few still registered. The board is still available for viewing and she's trying to decide whether to open it back up/re-register those who are requesting to be allowed back on. Apparently, things got very nasty about a month ago or so, but I wasn't checking-in regularly enough to know the details. (Lots of posts deleted.)
the other dishes are mine and contain my food.
please note, placing a paw print in the middle of my plate and food does not stake a claim for it becoming your food and dish, nor do i find that aesthetically pleasing in the slightest.. the stairway was not designed by nascar and is not a racetrack.
beating me to the bottom is not the object.
Love it, love it - and all too true!
i am thinking of doing this at the place where i have my daily brew.
just a simple coming together of those who wish to read a chapter or two of the bible once a week with a little discussion - completely non-denom of course - .
anyone have suggestions on how to go about this - have you done it or something similar?
I haven't used any of the resources from this site myself - heard about it via ChannelC. Discussions of God and Christ are from a non-trinitarian perspective.
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not sure if this has been brought up before, but thought i'd post it anyway.
not only do the jws have to ignore milk when it comes to the blood doctrine , now the are going to have to ignore vaccines.. check this out..... http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html
Milk contains somatic cells primarily in the form of neutrophils --a type of white blood cell.
Is that why PETA says milk contains pus?
So the Org had to wrestle with their "consciences" over whether to use vaccines which include "washed sheep RBCs" and albumin, but never made so much as a peep over components taken from aborted fetuses?
the jws warn you not to talk to ex-jws.
they claim that they spread lies about them.
in all of my research on the jws, i have found very few instances where ex-jws have told lies about jws.
what is wrong with going to ex-jws to get info if what they are saying is true?
Similar to what google said earlier, JWs don't know the issues. But whether they know or not isn't relevant to their stance. They believe whatever the Org says. When I was "in", the "Why would you ask someone to tell you about me when you could ask me?" argument made sense because I didn't believe anyone who was "against" Witnesses could possibly tell the truth. I was offended a couple years ago when a workmate of mine decided to explore info on JWs via the 'net and didn't come to me. I now realize that, just like other JWs, I thought I was being eminently reasonable so I couldn't hear how dogmatic and unreasonable I actually sounded. Add to that the conviction that those who were DA'd or DF'd were already mislead by Satan (Why else would they have "left" the "truth"?), and you soon realize JWs don't allow any contradictory arguments proposed by a non-JW to get a foothold in their minds long enough to give them a fair shake.
It just occurred to me that it's quite a contradiction to say that a non-JW doesn't know the "truth" about JWs. If the "world-wide work" was doing what it was supposed to, shouldn't just about everyone know the "truth" about them?
back when i joined this board, mozz and i had been dating for about 9 months.
and then 9 months later, the announcement we were engaged:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/27002/1.ashx.
Happy Anniversary!
i was very stressed when i was an active jw.
i hated going to meetings, knocking at doors, preparing meetings and so on.. i hated talking in front of a group.
there was too much to read and to prepare, and never felt like i was good enough.. last night i took a walk and passed in front of the book study where i was just a few months ago.
Let's just say...
For a number of months before I left (when I was still very deeply "in" and would have slapped anyone who suggested I would ever be otherwise), I developed chronic joint pain and fatigue. Went to three doctors who didn't want to call it fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue, though a friend of my mother's has it and shared many of the symptoms I had. I would often be at work and could barely sit up straight because of the hip pain, but if I stood for any length of time I'd get back and knee pain. I'd often go home and either collapse in an exhausted sleep (which was never refreshing) or have to lay flat the whole evening. It was really starting to kick my butt.
A week or so after I got "out", the pain and fatigued disappeared. I haven't had a recurrence since.
Could be coincidence...
...at room temperature!.
the advance could remove a major bottleneck at fiberoptic routers, where light must be converted to an electrical signal and then back to light, which is costly and time-consuming.
if incoming signal speeds could be modulated, routers could avoid this optical-electrical-optical swtich and dramatically increase throughput.. http://www.physorg.com/news6951.html.
Very cool. Seems a much more efficient way of slowing light than the quantum pattern imprint process - if slowing down light is all you want to do.
