Love it, love it - and all too true!
Ingenuous
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Dear Dogs and Cats
by BrendaCloutier inthe other dishes are mine and contain my food.
please note, placing a paw print in the middle of my plate and food does not stake a claim for it becoming your food and dish, nor do i find that aesthetically pleasing in the slightest.. the stairway was not designed by nascar and is not a racetrack.
beating me to the bottom is not the object.
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Anyone ever start a 'coffee-house' Bible study?
by AK - Jeff ini am thinking of doing this at the place where i have my daily brew.
just a simple coming together of those who wish to read a chapter or two of the bible once a week with a little discussion - completely non-denom of course - .
anyone have suggestions on how to go about this - have you done it or something similar?
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Ingenuous
I haven't used any of the resources from this site myself - heard about it via ChannelC. Discussions of God and Christ are from a non-trinitarian perspective.
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Vaccinations
by Pleasuredome in.
not sure if this has been brought up before, but thought i'd post it anyway.
not only do the jws have to ignore milk when it comes to the blood doctrine , now the are going to have to ignore vaccines.. check this out..... http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html
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Ingenuous
Milk contains somatic cells primarily in the form of neutrophils --a type of white blood cell.
Is that why PETA says milk contains pus?So the Org had to wrestle with their "consciences" over whether to use vaccines which include "washed sheep RBCs" and albumin, but never made so much as a peep over components taken from aborted fetuses?
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Apostate lies?
by gringojj inthe jws warn you not to talk to ex-jws.
they claim that they spread lies about them.
in all of my research on the jws, i have found very few instances where ex-jws have told lies about jws.
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Ingenuous
what is wrong with going to ex-jws to get info if what they are saying is true?
Similar to what google said earlier, JWs don't know the issues. But whether they know or not isn't relevant to their stance. They believe whatever the Org says. When I was "in", the "Why would you ask someone to tell you about me when you could ask me?" argument made sense because I didn't believe anyone who was "against" Witnesses could possibly tell the truth. I was offended a couple years ago when a workmate of mine decided to explore info on JWs via the 'net and didn't come to me. I now realize that, just like other JWs, I thought I was being eminently reasonable so I couldn't hear how dogmatic and unreasonable I actually sounded. Add to that the conviction that those who were DA'd or DF'd were already mislead by Satan (Why else would they have "left" the "truth"?), and you soon realize JWs don't allow any contradictory arguments proposed by a non-JW to get a foothold in their minds long enough to give them a fair shake.
It just occurred to me that it's quite a contradiction to say that a non-JW doesn't know the "truth" about JWs. If the "world-wide work" was doing what it was supposed to, shouldn't just about everyone know the "truth" about them?
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Three years ago today, Mozz and I got married!
by Billygoat inback when i joined this board, mozz and i had been dating for about 9 months.
and then 9 months later, the announcement we were engaged:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/27002/1.ashx.
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Ingenuous
Happy Anniversary!
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Did the JW religion add stress to your life?
by JH ini was very stressed when i was an active jw.
i hated going to meetings, knocking at doors, preparing meetings and so on.. i hated talking in front of a group.
there was too much to read and to prepare, and never felt like i was good enough.. last night i took a walk and passed in front of the book study where i was just a few months ago.
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Ingenuous
Let's just say...
For a number of months before I left (when I was still very deeply "in" and would have slapped anyone who suggested I would ever be otherwise), I developed chronic joint pain and fatigue. Went to three doctors who didn't want to call it fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue, though a friend of my mother's has it and shared many of the symptoms I had. I would often be at work and could barely sit up straight because of the hip pain, but if I stood for any length of time I'd get back and knee pain. I'd often go home and either collapse in an exhausted sleep (which was never refreshing) or have to lay flat the whole evening. It was really starting to kick my butt.
A week or so after I got "out", the pain and fatigued disappeared. I haven't had a recurrence since.
Could be coincidence...
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Researchers slow light to 245 meters/second
by seattleniceguy in...at room temperature!.
the advance could remove a major bottleneck at fiberoptic routers, where light must be converted to an electrical signal and then back to light, which is costly and time-consuming.
if incoming signal speeds could be modulated, routers could avoid this optical-electrical-optical swtich and dramatically increase throughput.. http://www.physorg.com/news6951.html.
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Ingenuous
Very cool. Seems a much more efficient way of slowing light than the quantum pattern imprint process - if slowing down light is all you want to do.
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if you love pit bulls or think you might
by kittyeatzjdubs indisclaimer.
first of all......let me start off by saying this.
i am not intending in any way to start any arguments with this topic.
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Ingenuous
It's heartbreaking going on Petfinder and seeing all the pit bulls up for adoption. I'm just glad there're foster homes for them.
I hear pit bulls are more likely to display dog-dog aggression, as opposed to dog-human aggression. I've seen some real sweeties adopted out on the shows on Animal Planet.
From the pit bull discussions on Petfinder, there are some pit bulls that are vicious when trained that way but there are also some animals who are bred to be aggressive and aren't going to turn into lap warmers by any stretch of the imagination. Many pit bull lovers are very adamant in their posts that there is a definite genetic component that can't be ignored and they say they don't trust their pit bulls alone around other dogs. Then again, there are pit bull owners who've never separated their dogs and never had a problem. One sure way, though, to start a multi-page thread is to post that you want to put two female pit bulls together in the same house - the pit bull experts on the boards jump all over that and seem to consider anyone who does it as deserving of whatever disaster ensues.
Still, it seems they really have to be evaluated individually. One of my Dad's friends had a female pit bull who was a big [fear] barker who would urinate submissively whenever a stranger got too close. She was a big baby and adored my Dad. (A couple pieces of turkey bacon in the pocket didn't hurt either!)
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When believers attack!
by daystar inpeople often react most defensively when challenged not on their firmly held beliefs but on beliefs they wish were true but suspect at some level to be false.... .
- christopher f. chabris.
* snagged from an acquaintance's site as i thought it might be of interest here.
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Ingenuous
I can see how I myself was predisposed to such reactions when I was "in". I believe most JWs are trained to constantly be on the defensive - constantly analyzing everything said to them, reading materials with the assumption that there is something threatening hidden. When I was a JW, I couldn't read anything even remotely religious without a knot of anxiety in my stomach. I couldn't just listen to someone without putting part of my attention on formulating an objection to what they were saying. I couldn't allow that someone might be "good" if they weren't JWs - there had to be some hidden badness in their hearts.
A faulty belief system can engender paranoia. The doctrines of JWs teach this paranoia as part of the system under the guise of "protecting" one's self spiritually and "always being ready to give an answer". What this really means is adopting a number of cognitive distortions (e.g., all-or-nothing thinking, catastrophising, "shoulds", etc.). Only later, if the person begins thinking independently, does cognitive dissonance and other methods of coping with "knowing without really knowing" kick in. The paranoia can be especially vicious when one adds in much sacrific and many years of personal investment. "Defending" one's belief system can feel like defending one's physical existence.
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JW kids and the national anthem humiliation......
by kid-A infor me, school was extremely stressful as a jw kid.
the worst part had to be my morning dose of humiliation being forced to walk out of the room as the national anthem came on the loudspeakers (first god save the queen, then, oh canada).
the other kids found this completely bizarre, and several of my "patriotic" minded teachers really resented me for doing this (despite the obvious fact i had no choice in the matter but was being forced into this by my parents).. how could anybody force this public humiliation on a small child or teen-ager, already having to deal with the normal stresses of growing up and worrying about their public image with their peers???
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Ingenuous
I stayed seated for the anthem (usually only played during school assemblies), stood silently for the pledge. Once, a JW classmate "gave in" and stood during the anthem. I felt so abandoned.
It wasn't even feeling awkward around classmates that really got to me. (I never like most kids my age anyway.) What really did me in was that I wasn't supposed to feel bad, left out, anxious, strange. I was supposed to be proud to be a JW, proud to be different, vindicated by other's disapproval. And I felt very little of that, and seldom. We aren't allowed to feel anything other than blessed and special under such circumstances and I wasn't very skilled at denial when I was very young (I got better at it in high school, since I got baptized right before I started.)