Definition of Apostasy from the Reasoning Book: "Apostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of God, actually a rebellion against Jehovah God. Some apostates profess to know and serve God but reject teachings or requirements set out in his Word. Others claim to believe the Bible but reject Jehovah's organization."
pure rhetoric.
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Very good apologetics for honest seekers
by Shining One inare you tired of the arrogant assertions of the elite ex-jw clique here?
here is some powerful ammunition to "demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of god"!
http://www.carm.org/evidence.htm .
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Shining One,A)you said"If you don't like my opinion then just ignore me," -- this explains why you ignore anyone who disputes your logic. Also, you are not stating things as opinion, you are stating them as truth.
B)you said"but don't pretend that you have the corner on truth ,facts and integrity." --this is exactly what you are doing.
C)you said"Your whining about God is pathetic and arrogant." --I previously took a cheap shot at your spelling, which you pointed out. I posted, on page 1 of this thread,
":Doing what JWs do is not my idea of good exgesis ." --Shining One
Rex, the impact of pretentious diction is lost when you don't spell the word correctly. Not that you're going over anyone's head anyway."
I apologize, it was an ad hominem attack, but you did not respond at all to the comments that followed, which addressed your argument. In your comment above, you not only resort to flat out name-calling, you again don't address the issue.
C)you said1) God rules by divine providence.
2) Man knew the rules.
3) Man broke the rules.
4) Man chose to rebel, separating himself from God.
5) God covered man's sin.
6) God provided a savior for man.
7) He died for man to be reconciled: He took the hit.
8) YOU have a choice. -- again, to use your own words, "don't pretend that you have the corner on truth, facts and integrity." You list these eight things as if they are established and undisputed fact, not just your opinion.
D)you said"If Christianity is true, you are eternally damned; if it is not true you are eventually just dead." --this is just a narrow-minded, twisted interpretation of Pascal's Wager.
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A Customer really pissed me off yesterday at work: SHE WANTS TO PRAY for me
by Terry ini work in a bookstore that specializes in buying its goods directly from the public second-hand and reselling them at half price.. .
it is a large chain of 83 stores in 8 states and does about 100 million a year.. .
i'm in charge of the religion and the philosophy sections.. .
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So if someone really believes that his prayer has the ability to open my eyes, why is there even a need to tell me about it? Isn't telling me about it just being self-serving?
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What did the "Godly Obedience" District Conventions really achieve?
by truthseeker inthis is a re-print of a post found on e-watchman's discussion board, a public forum.
it has a few interesting tidbits in there.
thought you might be interested.. by the way, does jwd have a policy about using posts from other boards, even if credit to the original author is given?.
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Well, many of us were pretty sure that the system couldn't go on past the year 2000 until they changed the generation definition in 1995.
That was when I became a real Cognitive Dissident.
I guess they haven't ever really stopped hinting at dates, and then putting the blame on the R&F for "making assumptions" when they don't come to pass. -
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"Finally we know 'what is the question to which the answer is 42'". Thank you.
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Nun confronts Hanks over 'Da Vinci Code'
by William Penwell inread this today on cnn.
the other night there was some catholic scholar referring to the book as being fiction.
i was confused as to whether he was referring to the "da vinci code" or the "bible"?
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I haven't read the DVC, but I did enjoy Angels and Demons. I thought it was entertaining.
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Went to Godly Obedience DC
by TheListener inwell, we finally attended the dc.
we couldn't go when assigned so we went this weekend instead.
i will say what a fine spiritually refreshing weekend it was!
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and I'll bet the bulk of the 25 were not even bible studies. Seems like the majority of the newly baptized are teenagers and young adults who are fulfilling their social contract, and not wanting to be thought of as "bad association".
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Nun confronts Hanks over 'Da Vinci Code'
by William Penwell inread this today on cnn.
the other night there was some catholic scholar referring to the book as being fiction.
i was confused as to whether he was referring to the "da vinci code" or the "bible"?
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Yeah, it's a novel. He's trying to sell books. Although I am pretty sure that he stole some of his ideas from Monty Python's Search for the Holy Grail, which we all know comes straight from the pencil of God. So parts of it must be true.
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I was one for a couple of years, I just didn't realize it.
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As you got baptised a j.w., did you truly agree with all j.w. teachings?
by hubert in's that weren't born into the cult.. were there any teachings, doctrine, etc.
that you still had a hard time accepting, even though you were going to be baptised into the org.?.
which policies and teaching?.
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For me agreeing or disagreeing didn't really enter into it. They weren't things that required agreement or disagreement, they just were. I was raised a JW, though, so indoctrination started early. At 17, at the convention, I just remember trying to really convince myself that I fully grasped the weight of the decision that I had made, and trying to show that seriousness by my demeanor. I also remember that just before I went out to take the plunge, I had to sign a piece of paper that they didn't give us time to read, and I was disturbed that everyone involved was so business-like about the whole thing. They didn't seem to care that I was making a life changing decision. Now I know that it's because they really didn't.